The Trump Tax Cut: Even Worse Than You’ve Heard

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

republicansnate after corruption and waste, and ground zero for that, is unions and democrats. look at what unions and democrats did to CT, and try to make me wrong. you can’t.
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Who controls both branches of government in the 20 states with the lowest household income?
Try and make that a shining star for Republicans
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Who controls both branches of government in the 20 states with the lowest household income?
Try and make that a shining star for Republicans
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See, I don't think state government drives the average income of its citizenry, I think citizens determine that for themselves.

How about state debt, which clearly is a function of who is running the state? the highest debt is IL and CT.

CT also has very high incomes. That has absolutely nothing to do with liberalism, an everything to do with our proximity to Manhattan.

Man.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

See, I don't think state government drives the average income of its citizenry, I think citizens determine that for themselves.

How about state debt, which clearly is a function of who is running the state? the highest debt is IL and CT.

CT also has very high incomes. That has absolutely nothing to do with liberalism, an everything to do with our proximity to Manhattan.

Man.

So high taxes are Driven by state governments but state governments have no effect on income levels but the states adjoining them do have some effect

Education, availability of services and Transportation don’t make a difference in how well a state performs for its citizens
That attitude is what keeps the bottom 20 where they are
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So high taxes are Driven by state governments but state governments have no effect on income levels but the states adjoining them do have some effect

Education, availability of services and Transportation don’t make a difference in how well a state performs for its citizens
That attitude is what keeps the bottom 20 where they are
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So if those 20 states raised their taxes they would rise from whatever bottom you are trying to make relevant? They don't have schools and transportation and available services in those states? Are the average citizens in those states suffering from a low quality of life? Is the cost of living as high in those states as it is in the high taxed states? Is the income inequality as prevalent in those 20 states as it is in the high tax states?

There are many, many, factors and statistics that go into the quality of life in a given state. Until you can gather the totality of all those factors and statistics, and also determine the overall personal preferences and values of the citizens, pointing out one factor in which a state is at the so-called "bottom" has very little, if any, value.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So if those 20 states raised their taxes they would rise from whatever bottom you are trying to make relevant? They don't have schools and transportation and available services in those states? Are the average citizens in those states suffering from a low quality of life? Is the cost of living as high in those states as it is in the high taxed states? Is the income inequality as prevalent in those 20 states as it is in the high tax states?

There are many, many, factors and statistics that go into the quality of life in a given state. Until you can gather the totality of all those factors and statistics, and also determine the overall personal preferences and values of the citizens, pointing out one factor in which a state is at the so-called "bottom" has very little, if any, value.

Just what would you suggest for this complicated algorithm that would define livability?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just what would you suggest for this complicated algorithm that would define livability?

I suggested a few, but there are as many algorithms as there are people. Searching for a universal definition of livability doesn't interest me. What I consider livable would be too simple, too basic, in most ways, for many others.

In general, in political conversations, bringing up a particular statistic usually involves promoting or siding with some agenda.