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				Your banging you head against a wall, everything I hear says the means justify the ends.  If the house doesn’t move on impeachment it’s just fine, because all these public hearings are going to leave Trump with only his one third base for 2020; assuming he can even keep that. 
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				Your banging you head against a wall, everything I hear says the means justify the ends.  If the house doesn’t move on impeachment it’s just fine, because all these public hearings are going to leave Trump with only his one third base for 2020; assuming he can even keep that. 
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		 1st line Democrats have allowed Communist to infiltrate their Party ... 
 
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		 Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists  / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda? 
 
Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood. 
 
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 It’s one thing to negotiate with a big stick in one hand and a carrot in the other, it’s quite another thing when Trump insults every American with a brain when he states he believes them when they lie about knowledge of involvement in these humanitarian crimes.
 
As to the video this country gives these people the right to free speech and it doesn’t surprise me there are a small number in elected offices.  It’s also more troubling to me if the Trump family has ties to Russia, the Saudi or anyone else that may be influencing decisions, then a handful of elected officials.  
 
If a republican candidate other than Trump were to run in 2020, against a Democrat I don’t feel is as qualified, I’d have a choice; which I don’t feel I had in the last election.  I don’t like Trump as a person, from what I’ve read I wouldn’t like him as a businessman and I certainly don’t like him as our potus.  I think he is dangerous on many levels, but again you are ok with the means as you personally are happy with the end results.
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				Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists  / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda? 
 
Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood. 
 
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 15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock.  now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed.  the party is sprinting a million miles 
to the left.  they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”.  Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them.
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				Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists  / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda? 
 
Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood. 
 
Socialism/Communism are incompatible with Freedom. Capitalism (properly governed) can support Freedom. 
 
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 15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock.  now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed.  the party is sprinting a million miles 
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				15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock.  now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed.  the party is sprinting a million miles 
to the left.  they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”.  Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them. 
mute leadernif the party, cortez, is making a list of those who dare to vote with the gop 
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				15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock.  now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed.  the party is sprinting a million miles 
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 Actress and activist Cynthia Nixon tweeted, @JoeBiden you’ve just called America’s most anti-LGBT elected leader “a decent guy.”
 
Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie 
 
Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.  
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter.
 
PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view   are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left 
 
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				Actress and activist Cynthia Nixon tweeted, @JoeBiden you’ve just called America’s most anti-LGBT elected leader “a decent guy.” 
 
Are you so closed minded that you think it's impossible for someone to be a decent guy if he's opposed to something he believes is wrong? 
 
Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie  
 
Did she consider how her words fall on the ears of our community? 
 
Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.  
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter. 
 
It is small minded, dictatorial, even tyrranical to insist that Biden, or anyone else, must consider someone indecent if he is opposed to your policy. 
 
PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view   are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left  
 
Do those "many circles" consider how those words fall on the ears of our community. 
 
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 This thread is about the association of Communists with Democrats.  I don't know if you're doing a whataboutism, or just avoiding having to comment on that association while you continue your diatribes against Trump, Republicans and to whom they are accused of being associated.
 
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				It’s one thing to negotiate with a big stick in one hand and a carrot in the other, it’s quite another thing when Trump insults every American with a brain when he states he believes them when they lie about knowledge of involvement in these humanitarian crimes. 
 
It's quite possible that Trump is just being diplomatic--just saving Kim's face in order to make negotiations less difficult than they already, and monumentally, are.  It's even possible that out of the thousands, if not millions, of humanitarian crimes committed by the NK regime, Kim is not personally aware of particular cases.   
 
I think Trump understands that either directly, or indirectly, Kim, being the "supreme leader" of a very harsh and secretive dictatorship, is ultimately responsible for the crimes of his regime.  But in the context of their private conversation, Kim may have laid out a plausible deniability.  Making nice, rather than being righteously blunt, may be the discretion that is the better part of valor, so to speak, to create a more feasible condition for negotiations. 
 
As to the video this country gives these people the right to free speech and it doesn’t surprise me there are a small number in elected offices.   
 
It's not about a small number in elected offices.  It is about the backing of the Communist party which has its tentacles spreading out to the Democrat party machines in many if not most of the states and other sectors of the country including the labor movement.  The Dem/Commie connection, since the 1930's has been huge and devastating, both nationally and internationally.  The deliverance of Eastern Europe, China, and NK, into the Communist sphere is directly attributed to Communist infiltration of the Democrat party.  The constant drift to the left of the Democrat Party is in no small part due to Communist rhetoric lifted from Communist "aids" and district "helpers" who influence local campaigns throughout the country.  The CPUSA just a few years ago sued the Democrat Party for stealing its "intellectual property" from their platform which wound up in the Democrat platform. 
 
All of this is played down, dismissed, or totally disregarded, especially by the mostly left leaning MSM, academia, and the Democrat party.  That you don't know about it, or that it can be poo-pooed as conspiracy or Republican fear mongering, or just a few elected officials is testimony to the effectiveness of the fake media effect.  And that cows many to shy away from saying anything for fear of being marginalized as kooks or worse.  It can cost friends as well as jobs in various milieus, especially academia and the media of all sorts. 
 
It’s also more troubling to me if the Trump family has ties to Russia, the Saudi or anyone else that may be influencing decisions, then a handful of elected officials.   
 
You might want to reconsider what is more troubling, a family possibly having unspecified and uncorroborated "ties" to Russia (which may be a politically motivated accusation and which whatever ties actually exist may be legitimate) and which may influence decisions by a President who would have little effective power against the opposition of both parties . . . or a political party with a proven history of effectual coordination with, and a current corroborated connection with, the Communist party that has and is influencing decisions. 
 
If a republican candidate other than Trump were to run in 2020, against a Democrat I don’t feel is as qualified, I’d have a choice; which I don’t feel I had in the last election.  I don’t like Trump as a person, from what I’ve read I wouldn’t like him as a businessman and I certainly don’t like him as our potus.  I think he is dangerous on many levels, but again you are ok with the means as you personally are happy with the end results. 
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 I don't know of any nefarious or destructive means that Trump is employing as POTUS.  I am not in like with him.  And I'm certainly not in like with the Democrat Party.  Nor am I in much like with the Republican party.  At least there is no evidence that the Republicans are in bed with the Commies.
 
I mostly, not entirely, like Rand Paul.  I sort of like Ted Cruz.  I have a like for the freedom caucus in the Repub Party.  Not a whole lot more like for the the Repubs.  I like no-one or anything about the Democrat Party.  There used to be some Dems in the past that I liked.  Scoop Jackson.  Sam Nunn.  A few others who's names escape me offhand.  But those types are long gone.  The rising stars of the Democrat party are scary.
 
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				This thread is about the association of Communists with Democrats.  I don't know if you're doing a whataboutism, or just avoiding having to comment on that association while you continue your diatribes against Trump, Republicans and to whom they are accused of being associated. 
 
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 You post more suggestive conspiracy laden comments and video than anyone here peddling your views as if they are based on facts.... and call others closed minded and bigoted...  for calling BS ...   and the list of those you support are as fringe as it gets 
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Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie  
 
Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.  
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter. 
 
PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view   are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left  
 
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 the gop hasn’t moved much.  can you provide specific examples of changed policy beliefs within the last 15 years?  the dnc thinks 
men can use whatever bathroom they choose, that late term abortion is a cause for celebration, that you cannot ever say anything positive about trump 
no matter what he does, and that we should tear down every building in the nation and rebuild 
with green energy.  
 
do you think it’s impossible to oppose gay marriage, and still 
be a decent guy?  
 
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flip on gay marriage.  but i know a huge number of very decent people 
who oppose gay marriage, despite what a bigoted, activist actress happens to believe.  Mother theresa wasn’t a decent person?
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				You post more suggestive conspiracy laden comments and video than anyone here peddling your views as if they are based on facts....  
 
This "more" meme is constantly used  by some on this forum as  deflection.  Can you factually back up this "more"?  And what is the significance of this "more"?  Is it a conceptual meme that paints something as a negative?  Is it some sort of conspiracy against the "less"?  And can you verify (examples, etc.) of  my suggesting some conspiracy? 
  
and call others closed minded and bigoted...   
 
I call out bigotry when I see it.  Don't you?  Do you have some privilege not allowed to me?  Have I called out bigotry without pointing out how it is so? 
 
for calling BS ...   and the list of those you support are as fringe as it gets 
 
You have not disproved any of my "BS."  You just say, without proof, that it is BS.  And "fringe," like "extremist," is another meme meant to disparage.  Being a minority, even an extreme one, is not being wrong or bad.  In this day of collectivist politics, the so called "fringe" has much good to offer. 
 
Seems you’re standard of measuring infiltration of communist in the Democratic Party is in par with How Trump concludes his immigrant invasion and declared National emergency  
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				What standard of measurement are you referring to?  The video listed names of Communists who are actively supporting the Democrat Party.  And in what way they are doing it.  Can you show how none of that is true? 
			
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 and in your world that's a take over and infiltration of the democratic party ...  as suggested  in your video  
		
		
		
		
		
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				and in your world that's a take over and infiltration of the democratic party ...  as suggested  in your video 
			
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So, rather than prove the content of the video to be wrong, you attempt to change my "world" by sticking words in it that were not expressed.  "Take over" was your attempt to transform my "world." 
 
Please try to stick to the subject rather than trying to change it.  That would be an actual conversation, from which an actual transfer of knowledge and the true change of a "world" can occur.
 
The video did not "suggest" a whole lot other than the irony of Democrats trying to pin collusion with Russia on Trump when Dems   are in bed with  Communists.  That was the minimal "suggestion" part.  The bulk of the video was the naming of several Communists who are and were helping to get Dems elected.
 
If that's OK with you, of no particular consequence, then, to be fair, I would suppose that it's OK with you that so called right wing extremists are associated with Republicans.  If you won't complain about one, why would you complain about the other?  
		
		
		
		
		
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				So, rather than prove the content of the video to be wrong, you attempt to change my "world" by sticking words in it that were not expressed.  "Take over" was your attempt to transform my "world."  
 
Please try to stick to the subject rather than trying to change it.  That would be an actual conversation, from which an actual transfer of knowledge and the true change of a "world" can occur. 
 
The video did not "suggest" a whole lot other than the irony of Democrats trying to pin collusion with Russia on Trump when Dems   are in bed with  Communists.  That was the minimal "suggestion" part.  The bulk of the video was the naming of several Communists who are and were helping to get Dems elected. 
 
If that's OK with you, of no particular consequence, then, to be fair, I would suppose that it's OK with you that so called right wing extremists are associated with Republicans.  If you won't complain about one, why would you complain about the other? 
			
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infiltration  a method of attack in which small bodies of soldiers or individual soldiers penetrate the enemy's line at weak or unguarded points in order to assemble behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, harass enemy rear-area installations, etc.
 
so are they attacking the democrats  or helping them??   because your clip uses the word infiltration I am confused  
		
		
		
		
		
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 on what specific policies, had the GOP changed course?  What major changes have they undergone?
 
sanctity of life 
individual responsibility 
small federal government 
individual liberty 
strong national defense 
charity for those in need 
power of the free market to lift people out of poverty 
fiscal responsibility ( the debt is making that a weaker and weaker claim)
 
there are jerks in the gop, liars, and hypocrites.  but that’s still the policy platform.
 
look at bill clinton.  they’d hate his policies today.  kicking deadbeats off welfare, and telling them 
to go back to work?  slashing taxes on capital gains?  balancing the budget?  who 
among democrats is calling for a return to these things?
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				infiltration  a method of attack in which small bodies of soldiers or individual soldiers penetrate the enemy's line at weak or unguarded points in order to assemble behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, harass enemy rear-area installations, etc. 
 
so are they attacking the democrats  or helping them??   because your clip uses the word infiltration I am confused 
			
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 Yes you're confused.  You quite often are.  In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life.  You have been out of the military for some time, I assume.  You might want to check out some civilian type definitions:
 
infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary): 
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/  
 
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves." 
 
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"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization."
 
Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each.  CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party.  It wants to use it.  And it wants to influence it.  So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda.  It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own.  It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way.  Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements.
 
The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats.  It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose.  The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition.
 
The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors.  This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit.  The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies.  Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible. 
 
More and more Americans, especially the younger generations coming out of Marxist academe, are finding that idea attractive.  The infiltration seems to be working.  
		
		
		
		
		
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				Yes you're confused.  You quite often are.  In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life.  You have been out of the military for some time, I assume.  You might want to check out some civilian type definitions: 
 
infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary): 
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/  
 
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves."  
 
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"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization." 
 
Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each.  CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party.  It wants to use it.  And it wants to influence it.  So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda.  It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own.  It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way.  Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements. 
 
The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats.  It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose.  The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition. 
 
The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors.  This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit.  The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies.  Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible.  
 
More and more Americans, especially the younger generations coming out of Marxist academe, are finding that idea attractive.  The infiltration seems to be working. 
			
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Marxist academe    you have such an active imagination  https://www.econlib.org/archives/201...valence_1.html
So secret your presenter knows everyones Names.   as I have said its just another spoon feed story for like minded people using Classic Conservatives Buzz words ...    Communist  she even used  comrade a few times ..  
		
		
		
		
		
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 Can you please provide a few examples of significant American ideals that Trump is destroying?
 
He must be doing it very, very slowly, because I don't see it.  He has overstepped a few times and the courts have responded as they should, and kept him in check.  Same thing happened with Obama.  That's exactly how it's supposed to work.
 
The Constitution has not been changed, the courts are still there keeping him in check, the press is still offering coverage of Trump that's 98% negative everywhere but Fox, Jim Acosta still gets called on at press conferences despite arguing with Trump about everything instead of reporting like he' supposed to, and there are multiple investigations into "collusion".
 
What is Trump dismantling?  Other than high black unemployment, that is?  Has he declared himself a dictator for life and I missed that announcement?  
		
		
		
		
		
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				If Capitalism is perfect and Socialism is deeply flawed, and therefor all means of production, assets, etc were owned by people and not the government, what incentive would private prisons have to reduce recidivism or even release people?  
A person on the street is worth nothing to them, but everyone incarcerated is valuable. 
I know I just confused Jim, but that is an example of capitalism that is currently occurring and I think it should bother us.  
We live in a socialist democracy/republic (Madison and Marshall argued about democracy/republic hundreds of years ago, nobody won) and here are some examples of what that has gained us: 
Public Libraries 
Public Schools 
Roads 
Municipal sewer and water systems 
Armed forces 
Police departments 
Public hospitals 
Veterans Administration 
Social Security 
Medicaid 
Public transportation 
Public anything 
Pretty horrible scary stuff, isn't it? 
We have been doing it in this country since 1802 when the Corp of Engineers was permanently established and started mapping, building lighthouses and roads.  
Trying to scare people with trigger words is typical of the current Trumplican Party. 
I think there is far greater chance of this government becoming totalitarian than communist, Trump certainly has great appreciation for all the totalitarians he meets and believes them more than his fellow Americans. 
Putin on interference, the Saudis on Kashoggi, Kim Jong Un on Warmbier. 
			
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				Yes you're confused.  You quite often are.  In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life.  You have been out of the military for some time, I assume.  You might want to check out some civilian type definitions: 
 
infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary): 
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us  /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/  
 
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves."  
 
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"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization." 
 
Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each.  CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party.  It wants to use it.  And it wants to influence it.  So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda.  It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own.  It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way.  Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements. 
 
The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats.  It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose.  The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition. 
 
The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors.  This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit.  The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies.  Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible.  
 
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