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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why are you now worried about financial burdens, the current administration is certainly not fiscally conservative. In fact no less of a right wing mouthpiece than Rush Limbaugh said:"Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it’s been around." So apparently your outrage is fake.

And speaking of selective outrage and fakery.

It seems you are also one of the same group of people that blame the “breakdown in the American family” for the mass shootings and also support a many times divorced President who sleeps with porn stars and sexually assaults women.

you’re beyond dishonest. i’m always concerned about impossible
financial burdens. obama
added too much debt, trump
is making the same
mistake. you’re beyond cowardly, beyond being full of sh*t, you just make up gibberish as you go.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How many people have Antifa killed?

And I'm not defending them but compared to Neo Nazis and White supremacist they are in a different class.

No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/

“do the math”.

here’s some math.

80 > your IQ.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/

“do the math”.

here’s some math.

80 > your IQ.
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Homework up Jim. The guy you posted was there for action.

As for my IQ, it's probably closer to 60

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Homework up Jim. The guy you posted was there for action.

As for my IQ, it's probably closer to 60

Ive got a photo same guy nose to nose with antifa protester.. hes no innocent
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ive got a photo same guy nose to nose with antifa protester.. hes no innocent
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right he had it coming. antifa doesn’t engage in unprovoked
violence.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

This is the Robin Hood syndrome for snowflakes apparently.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

So when Antifa kills someone, because people thinking like you think there is some nobility in their actions, that will be OK ?

Originally Posted by spence

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Antifa = DoGooders? Am I getting this right?



I am Gobsmacked, that you think there is some honorable ground here.

Originally Posted by spence

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

Antifa = Terrorist Group
Neo Nazis = Terrorist Group
White Supremacists = Terrorist Group

Once they get violent and exceed any Constitutionally granted protection, they should go to jail. You'd probably let them out, and at least vote while in the klink.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

So when Antifa kills someone, because people thinking like you think there is some nobility in their actions, that will be OK ?

I don't condone violence on any side under most circumstances, violent protesters should be prosecuted.

Antifa = DoGooders? Am I getting this right?

I think they believe they are.

I am Gobsmacked, that you think there is some honorable ground here.

Countering right-wing extremism is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Antifa = Terrorist Group
Neo Nazis = Terrorist Group
White Supremacists = Terrorist Group

Once they get violent and exceed any Constitutionally granted protection, they should go to jail. You'd probably let them out, and at least vote while in the klink.

Seems like Antifa is targeting groups or people pushing radical right-wing ideas, they're not trying to scare me into not supporting those ideas. Right-wing extremists on the other hand have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism. There is a difference.

[scottw]

I read that both of the recent shooters were registered democrats and one was a big Liz Warren supporter

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't condone violence on any side under most circumstances, violent protesters should be prosecuted.

And when someone goes violent they should be prosecuted.

Originally Posted by spence

I think they believe they are.

The Neo Nazis think they are right too. Unacceptable regardless of hard left or hard right. You are beginning to concern me.

Originally Posted by spence

Countering right-wing extremism is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Countering all extremism, by legal authority, is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like Antifa is targeting groups or people pushing radical right-wing ideas, they're not trying to scare me into not supporting those ideas. Right-wing extremists on the other hand have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism. There is a difference.

I cannot believe you are unable to see the difference, I am concerned that you are willing to allow for the difference.

The bad and horrible ideas by NeoNazis, White Supremacists, and Antifa should be countered - by the people of this country - with better ideas, ideals, and debate. Anything beyond that should be by competent legal authority.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re beyond dishonest. i’m always concerned about impossible
financial burdens. obama
added too much debt, trump
is making the same
mistake. you’re beyond cowardly, beyond being full of sh*t, you just make up gibberish as you go.
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How am i dishonest when I cite things you've said.

Now you've, once again, fallen back on but Obama.

Limbaugh said that and he is a right wing mouthpiece, has been for years. He ranted about fiscal conservatism when it suited his rhetoric and now claims it is bogus.

Financial burdens in your mind are only those things you and Tucker judge to be unaffordable.

Remember, the great negotiator, Trump, threw away his border wall, immigration reform and more because some on the right and particularly some of his advisors will never accept any amnesty for any illegal immigration. Politics is the art of making compromise a win, and fails if the other side consistently loses.

Just keep defending Trump as usual, using false equivalents.


The market is interesting today, Trump will deny responsibility for that also.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

How am i dishonest when I cite things you've said.

o.

wrong.

you claimed that “now” i’m worried
about financial burden. either show
me where i said i wasn’t previously concerned about financial burdens, or kindly say you made it up.
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