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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How many people have Antifa killed?

And I'm not defending them but compared to Neo Nazis and White supremacist they are in a different class.

No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No, they are in the same class. They are people willing to resort to violence to move a political agenda. They are dangerous, they deserve zero glorification, and they deserve zero respect or accommodation. They are where actual violent communists and anarchists meet actual violent fascists.

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/

“do the math”.

here’s some math.

80 > your IQ.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s all antifa does, speak out against fascism? tell that to
this guy, beaten by antifa not because he supports fascism, but because he tried to stop antifa from beating a transgender. only the left would say “we’re opposed to fascism, now do as we say or we’ll beat you to a pulp.”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...a-attack-port/

“do the math”.

here’s some math.

80 > your IQ.
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Homework up Jim. The guy you posted was there for action.

As for my IQ, it's probably closer to 60

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Homework up Jim. The guy you posted was there for action.

As for my IQ, it's probably closer to 60

Ive got a photo same guy nose to nose with antifa protester.. hes no innocent
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ive got a photo same guy nose to nose with antifa protester.. hes no innocent
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right he had it coming. antifa doesn’t engage in unprovoked
violence.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

right he had it coming. antifa doesn’t engage in unprovoked
violence.
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thats funny you still think he was an just innocent bystander minding his business trying to rescue a gay person must be a The Washington Times or Washington Examiner storie tell you that

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

This is the Robin Hood syndrome for snowflakes apparently.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like right reason wrong action vs wrong reason wrong action = not the same.

So when Antifa kills someone, because people thinking like you think there is some nobility in their actions, that will be OK ?

Originally Posted by spence

Or more simply, Antifa is going to tap into a small fragment of the population who think they want to be dogooders and get a rise out of it. The white nationalist thing is pulling on the ugly roots of our broader society and is much, much more serious.

Antifa = DoGooders? Am I getting this right?



I am Gobsmacked, that you think there is some honorable ground here.

Originally Posted by spence

Some in the GOP have called for Antifa to be labeled a terror group. To terrorize the American people to not be Fascists? Do the math.

Antifa = Terrorist Group
Neo Nazis = Terrorist Group
White Supremacists = Terrorist Group

Once they get violent and exceed any Constitutionally granted protection, they should go to jail. You'd probably let them out, and at least vote while in the klink.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

So when Antifa kills someone, because people thinking like you think there is some nobility in their actions, that will be OK ?

I don't condone violence on any side under most circumstances, violent protesters should be prosecuted.

Antifa = DoGooders? Am I getting this right?

I think they believe they are.

I am Gobsmacked, that you think there is some honorable ground here.

Countering right-wing extremism is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Antifa = Terrorist Group
Neo Nazis = Terrorist Group
White Supremacists = Terrorist Group

Once they get violent and exceed any Constitutionally granted protection, they should go to jail. You'd probably let them out, and at least vote while in the klink.

Seems like Antifa is targeting groups or people pushing radical right-wing ideas, they're not trying to scare me into not supporting those ideas. Right-wing extremists on the other hand have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism. There is a difference.

[scottw]

I read that both of the recent shooters were registered democrats and one was a big Liz Warren supporter

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

I read that both of the recent shooters were registered democrats and one was a big Liz Warren supporter

Nothing to see, move along
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't condone violence on any side under most circumstances, violent protesters should be prosecuted.

And when someone goes violent they should be prosecuted.

Originally Posted by spence

I think they believe they are.

The Neo Nazis think they are right too. Unacceptable regardless of hard left or hard right. You are beginning to concern me.

Originally Posted by spence

Countering right-wing extremism is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Countering all extremism, by legal authority, is a good thing within reasonable boundaries.

Originally Posted by spence

Seems like Antifa is targeting groups or people pushing radical right-wing ideas, they're not trying to scare me into not supporting those ideas. Right-wing extremists on the other hand have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism. There is a difference.

I cannot believe you are unable to see the difference, I am concerned that you are willing to allow for the difference.

The bad and horrible ideas by NeoNazis, White Supremacists, and Antifa should be countered - by the people of this country - with better ideas, ideals, and debate. Anything beyond that should be by competent legal authority.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

You are beginning to concern me.

I've been worried about him for a LONG time