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10-02-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Again, you're OK then, with police departments deciding which laws they will help enforce, and which they will help people violate? Some day they may decide to ignore laws you happen to like.
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Local PD doesn't enforce federal law Jim.
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10-02-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Local PD doesn't enforce federal law Jim.
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But they routinely assist Jeff.
It takes a village you know.
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10-02-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Local PD doesn't enforce federal law Jim.
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True, which is why I said "help enforce". SO stop being obtuse, you're OK with individual departments telling federal law enforcement that there are some duly constituted federal law which they'll help enforce, and some duly constituted federal law they won't help enforce? And they'll use personal political beliefs to determine which laws they'll help enforce, and which they won't?
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10-02-2019, 01:34 PM
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spence would throw the cop in jail and give the guy in the country illegally driving around with no drivers license and no insurance while ignoring a warrant for avoiding his deportation hearing his very own drivers license, free healthcare and probably a host of other goodies in the hopes he'd vote democrat
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10-02-2019, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
True, which is why I said "help enforce". SO stop being obtuse, you're OK with individual departments telling federal law enforcement that there are some duly constituted federal law which they'll help enforce, and some duly constituted federal law they won't help enforce? And they'll use personal political beliefs to determine which laws they'll help enforce, and which they won't?
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You mean like states passing laws allowing for marijuana even though it's still illegal Federally?
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10-02-2019, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You mean like states passing laws allowing for marijuana even though it's still illegal Federally?
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not really, no, because VA doesn’t have a codified state law saying it’s legal to enter the country illegally.
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10-02-2019, 02:24 PM
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I assume all who think every law should be enforced perform a citizens arrest on themselves any time they exceed the speed limit and if an officer gives them a ticket makes sure they issue it for the correct speed, or the correct violation.
Here's some other federal laws that could be enforced to save us, because law is good.
16 USC §551 & 36 CFR §261.16(c) make it a crime to wash a fish at a faucet if it's not a fish-washing faucet, in a national forest.
18 USC 2383
"Whoever incites... any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."( https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...77539653771264)
18 U.S.C. §1657 makes it a federal crime to consult with a known pirate.
18 U.S.C. §1865 & 36 C.F.R. §2.15(a)(4) make it a federal crime to let your pet make a noise that scares the wildlife in a national park.
21 USC §333 & 21 CFR §102.39 make it a crime to sell onion rings resembling normal onion rings, but made from diced onion, without saying so
49 U.S.C. §46316(a) & 14 C.F.R. §105.7(a) make it a federal crime to skydive while drunk. (PS you won't get me to jump out of a perfectly good airplane sober)
27 USC §§205, 207 & 27 CFR §4.64(a)(8) make it a federal crime to advertise wine in a manner that suggests it has intoxicating qualities.
7 USC §1011(f) & 36 CFR §261.4(b) make it a crime to say something so annoying to someone that it makes them hit you in a national forest.
15 U.S.C. §§330a & 330d make it a federal crime to attempt to change the weather without telling the Secretary of Commerce. ( I assume Trump told Wilber before he wielded the Sharpie)
27 U.S.C. §207, §205(e) & 27 C.F.R. §4.39(a)(9) make it a federal crime to sell wine with a brand name including the word "zombie."
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10-02-2019, 02:28 PM
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Peto you are an idiot
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10-02-2019, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Peto you are an idiot
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This needs a Like button 👍
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10-03-2019, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
This needs a Like button 👍
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We need one for you. Any ideas
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10-02-2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I assume all who think every law should be enforced perform a citizens arrest on themselves any time they exceed the speed limit and if an officer gives them a ticket makes sure they issue it for the correct speed, or the correct violation.
Here's some other federal laws that could be enforced to save us, because law is good.
16 USC §551 & 36 CFR §261.16(c) make it a crime to wash a fish at a faucet if it's not a fish-washing faucet, in a national forest.
18 USC 2383
"Whoever incites... any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."( https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...77539653771264)
18 U.S.C. §1657 makes it a federal crime to consult with a known pirate.
18 U.S.C. §1865 & 36 C.F.R. §2.15(a)(4) make it a federal crime to let your pet make a noise that scares the wildlife in a national park.
21 USC §333 & 21 CFR §102.39 make it a crime to sell onion rings resembling normal onion rings, but made from diced onion, without saying so
49 U.S.C. §46316(a) & 14 C.F.R. §105.7(a) make it a federal crime to skydive while drunk. (PS you won't get me to jump out of a perfectly good airplane sober)
27 USC §§205, 207 & 27 CFR §4.64(a)(8) make it a federal crime to advertise wine in a manner that suggests it has intoxicating qualities.
7 USC §1011(f) & 36 CFR §261.4(b) make it a crime to say something so annoying to someone that it makes them hit you in a national forest.
15 U.S.C. §§330a & 330d make it a federal crime to attempt to change the weather without telling the Secretary of Commerce. ( I assume Trump told Wilber before he wielded the Sharpie)
27 U.S.C. §207, §205(e) & 27 C.F.R. §4.39(a)(9) make it a federal crime to sell wine with a brand name including the word "zombie."
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enforcing speed
limits is up to cops judgment. that’s not nearly the same thing as telling police they are forbidden from ever cooperating with ICE, this is giving cops less judgment.
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10-02-2019, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
enforcing speed
limits is up to cops judgment. that’s not nearly the same thing as telling police they are forbidden from ever cooperating with ICE, this is giving cops less judgment.
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Want to bet the rule says if in doubt call your superior?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-02-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Want to bet the rule says if in doubt call your superior?
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pete, an american police officer helped the feds get a guy who didn’t just come illegally and then obey all laws. he drove without a license, and skipped a court date. he helped the feds get a guy they had a fugitive warrant on.
republicans say the cop deserves an atta boy.
liberals say he deserves to get suspended.
on this issue, i like my sides position. last i checked, the state of VA was still part of the country.
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10-03-2019, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Local PD doesn't enforce federal law Jim.
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so if some scumbag kidnaps a kid in NH and drives to MA and the local PD knows where he is, they just throw up their hands and says Screw It, its a federal matter.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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10-03-2019, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
so if some scumbag kidnaps a kid in NH and drives to MA and the local PD knows where he is, they just throw up their hands and says Screw It, its a federal matter.
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Spence does not understand this logic,you have to write it in #^^^^^^^& for him.
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10-03-2019, 06:01 AM
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it's really amazing....we'd be better off keeping the illegals and deporting the liberals at this point
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10-03-2019, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
it's really amazing....we'd be better off keeping the illegals and deporting the liberals at this point
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it’s absolutely amazing what they are embracing. which is why you almost never hear democrats talking about why their agenda is what’s best for the country, all you hear is orange man bad.
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10-03-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
so if some scumbag kidnaps a kid in NH and drives to MA and the local PD knows where he is, they just throw up their hands and says Screw It, its a federal matter.
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not exactly.
local law enforcement should
cooperate with the feds to enforce laws that liberals happen to agree with. it’s ok to refuse to help, when the law in question isn’t popular with delicate snowflakes.
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