IG report

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You crack me up at times. So this I assume is the only administration where issues having to do with fisa warrants have happened, give me a break; it’s been a problem forever. I’m not suggesting that isn’t a problem, but it isn’t the main problem moving forward.

Barr and his bulldog met ahead of the IG issuing the report, but guess what; they offered nothing to change their conclusions. Deep state gone. FBI and CIA coup gone. Help from a foreign power to interfere in our elections ongoing, I guess that’s no issue for you of course, as the means justify the end which is Trump has help getting elected.
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"So this I assume is the only administration where issues having to do with fisa warrants have happened, give me a break; it’s been a problem forever'

What's your evidence of this? I'm not saying you can't be correct, but other than the fact that your statement serves your political agenda here, what is the evidence that it's true?

I also asked the question, multiple times here, of how common it is for the FBI to make a large number of serious mistakes when making FISA surveillance applications. I'm guessing neither one of us knows the answer.

But combine the errors with the fact that the target was a presidential campaign of the opposition party, and that a senior FBI agent involved claimed that "we will stop" Trump from becoming President, and it's troubling. Maybe not to Trump haters. But I'd bet every cent I own and all I could borrow that the most fervent anti Trumpers here would be signing a very different tune if Trump had made serious errors to get permission to spy on a democratic presidential campaign.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"So this I assume is the only administration where issues having to do with fisa warrants have happened, give me a break; it’s been a problem forever'

What's your evidence of this? I'm not saying you can't be correct, but other than the fact that your statement serves your political agenda here, what is the evidence that it's true?

I also asked the question, multiple times here, of how common it is for the FBI to make a large number of serious mistakes when making FISA surveillance applications. I'm guessing neither one of us knows the answer.

But combine the errors with the fact that the target was a presidential campaign of the opposition party, and that a senior FBI agent involved claimed that "we will stop" Trump from becoming President, and it's troubling. Maybe not to Trump haters. But I'd bet every cent I own and all I could borrow that the most fervent anti Trumpers here would be signing a very different tune if Trump had made serious errors to get permission to spy on a democratic presidential campaign.

Past fisa abuse was part of the testimony yesterday, it’s not new. Why not address the pattern of Trump soliciting help from foreign powers to interfere in our elections and it’s still today going on by Rudy and who knows what happened behind closed doors with the Russian ambassador.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Past fisa abuse was part of the testimony yesterday, it’s not new. Why not address the pattern of Trump soliciting help from foreign powers to interfere in our elections and it’s still today going on by Rudy and who knows what happened behind closed doors with the Russian ambassador.
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I happen to believe we're capable of doing two things at once. Let's investigate Trump and find out if the DOJ needs some fixing. If collectively we don't like what Trump is doing, we get to vote him out in November. We can't vote out career FBI agents, so it's also important that we know what's going on there, that they aren't abusing their authority.

The DOJ said very specifically, that the Steele dossier was what "put them over the top" in terms of getting the probable cause to spy on Steele. But it was so commonly known to be garbage, that no TV network would go near it. Knowingly using false data to suspend the civil rights of an American citizen, isn't a trivial thing to most Americans.