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12-16-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Our government has work to do on FISA in a number of branches, maybe we have to decide if we value security over privacy. Chris Wray, a Floridaman appointee is doing that right now in the FBI. And pay attention to Floridaman's BS about him. But screaming about the FBI is what the Trumplicans are hoping you do, push the conversation to the evils inflicted on Floridaman, rather than what he has done.
Michael Horowitz, demolished Floridaman’s most sensational allegations about the Russia inquiry: He concluded that the opening of the investigation was lawful and legitimate, that there was no improper “spying” on the Floridaman campaign and that the F.B.I. wasn’t part of some “deep state” conspiracy to overthrow the president. FISA has flaws that need fixing, but "deep state" claims are a dangerous distraction.
But you haven't read it and you won't, you'll just repeat Floridaman and the Trumplicans talking points.
And that gives them the tools to push baloney like this.
“I do think the big report to wait for is going to be the Durham report,” Floridaman said, once again speculating about a report that hasn’t been written. “That’s the one that people are really waiting for.”
Their ability to wreak political havoc with the latest Horowitz report is part of what has now become a clear pattern:Call for an investigation of a favorite Floridaman target; speculate about the likely outcome; seize on any collateral evidence that emerges; spin the results; then move quickly to the next investigation. Repeat. He's done it all his working life.
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Horowitz concluded that the FBI made a large number of serious and fundamental mistakes. but that’s nothing. Because liberal =good, conservative = bad.
one more report to go, Durham’s. Long wait.
i’m not screaming about the fbi. i’m staying what horowitz said and wrote.
you’re ignoring that, because it’s what the dnc wants you to do.
look at our posting history. I go where the facts take me, you post nothing but partisan rhetoric. Never anything but.
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12-16-2019, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Horowitz concluded that the FBI made a large number of serious and fundamental mistakes. but that’s nothing. Because liberal =good, conservative = bad.
one more report to go, Durham’s. Long wait.
Talk about an echo:“I do think the big report to wait for is going to be the Durham report,” Floridaman said, once again speculating about a report that hasn’t been written. “That’s the one that people are really waiting for.”
i’m not screaming about the fbi. i’m staying what horowitz said and wrote.
you’re ignoring that, because it’s what the dnc wants you to do.
look at our posting history. I go where the facts take me, you post nothing but partisan rhetoric. Never anything but.
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What you claim as facts are typically right wing media reports, that come from the Trumplican echo chamber.
Have you read the Mueller report?
Have you read the Horowitz report?
Where do your "facts" come from?
Isn't it odd that they always seem to be parsed from a report, rather than viewed as part of a whole?
It seems that the FBI and the media are together a criminal organization, in your view, Faux's and that of Floridaman.
You should read the Op-Ed by William Webster
Mr. Webster is a former federal judge and the former director of both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/o...stigation.html
Keep in mind that after Sergei Lavrov visited the White House (again), Russian state tv ran a piece on the visit called "Puppet Master and ‘Agent’" that joked about offering Trump asylum in Russia if he loses the 2020 election.
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12-16-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What you claim as facts are typically right wing media reports, that come from the Trumplican echo chamber.
Have you read the Mueller report?
Have you read the Horowitz report?
Where do your "facts" come from?
Isn't it odd that they always seem to be parsed from a report, rather than viewed as part of a whole?
It seems that the FBI and the media are together a criminal organization, in your view, Faux's and that of Floridaman.
You should read the Op-Ed by William Webster
Mr. Webster is a former federal judge and the former director of both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/o...stigation.html
Keep in mind that after Sergei Lavrov visited the White House (again), Russian state tv ran a piece on the visit called "Puppet Master and ‘Agent’" that joked about offering Trump asylum in Russia if he loses the 2020 election.
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durham’s probe is wider in scope, and criminal in nature. Just because trump says that, doesn’t make it false. And just because i say it, doesn’t make me a trumplican.
you’re saying that anyone who agrees with trump on anything, is a trumplican.
That’s not crazy, nope.
You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.
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12-16-2019, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
durham’s probe is wider in scope, and criminal in nature. Just because trump says that, doesn’t make it false. And just because i say it, doesn’t make me a trumplican.
you’re saying that anyone who agrees with trump on anything, is a trumplican.
That’s not crazy, nope.
You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.
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So you have read nothing outside the media reports and purport to cite facts.
Good luck with that.
And here's a definition for you, even shows how to use it in a sentence.
Trumplican
A Republican who strays from party values to pander to Trump.
That Republican senator used to be a fiscal conservative; he is now a Trumplican.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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12-16-2019, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So you have read nothing outside the media reports and purport to cite facts.
Good luck with that.
And here's a definition for you, even shows how to use it in a sentence.
Trumplican
A Republican who strays from party values to pander to Trump.
That Republican senator used to be a fiscal conservative; he is now a Trumplican.
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i listened to what Horowitz himself said. Somehow you’re going to say that his testimony isn’t relevant, because it makes obama look bad.
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12-16-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That’s not crazy, nope.
You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.
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the most impressive thing about pete is that he somehow still manages to type out words while his arms are bound in a straightjacket
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12-16-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
the most impressive thing about pete is that he somehow still manages to type out words while his arms are bound in a straightjacket
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it’s something to see. If Trump says two plus two is four, he’d say “ the hell it is!”.
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12-16-2019, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
it’s something to see. If Trump says two plus two is four, he’d say “ the hell it is!”.
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I think your math is a bit advanced for the POTUS.
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