politics and Iran

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

spence says it’s reckless
to kill a terrorist and enemy combatant, credited with killing 600 americans. it’s less risky to let him keep operating. he’s not willing to take on any risk to provide justice for the victims.

Spence, if the economy holds ( no one knows if it will), Trump wins again. How long will you go into self exile this time?
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John, we need a double facepalm emoji now.

Next you'll be claiming democrats love terrorists, oops Collins beat you to it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

John, we need a double facepalm emoji now.

Next you'll be claiming democrats love terrorists, oops Collins beat you to it.

i’m not that stupid to say that. but you said very clearly, it’s wrong for us to assume risk to deal with the Soleimini’s of the world. let’s deal with what you explicitly said, rather than claim I said gibberish i sense that i’d never say. Fair enough?

You didn’t care about possible Al
Queda retaliation when obama has
bin laden killed. Because
orange man bad, and because
obama gives you erections.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m not that stupid to say that. but you said very clearly, it’s wrong for us to assume risk to deal with the Soleimini’s of the world. let’s deal with what you explicitly said, rather than claim I said gibberish i sense that i’d never say. Fair enough?

Who ever said we can't tolerate risk? Good lord the irony in your post.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Who ever said we can't tolerate risk? Good lord the irony in your post.

you said killing him was a reckless
and risky escalation. i don’t think that between the coasts, that’s a popular opinion. if
those words sound idiotic
to you i agree with you, but the fact is they’re your words.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

John, we need a double facepalm emoji now.

Next you'll be claiming democrats love terrorists, oops Collins beat you to it.

The amount of Progressives and Dems directly laying the blame of the Iran downing of the Ukraine 737 on Trump would indicate that.

The amount of Progressives and Dems celebrating the life of Soleimani would indicate that.

It has been bizzarro world past week.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

The amount of Progressives and Dems directly laying the blame of the Iran downing of the Ukraine 737 on Trump would indicate that.

I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump, but it is fair to say had he not made such a reckless move the Iranians wouldn't have had the opportunity to eff it up so badly and those people would be alive. I'm still trying to understand how the Iranians could have been operating regular commercial flights the same day they're launching rockets.

It does also highlight how most of the rest of the world views Iran under a different lens. Imagine, Iranian kids going to college in Canada. I thought they were all terrorists.

The amount of Progressives and Dems celebrating the life of Soleimani would indicate that.

Haven't seen this either, not once.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump, but it is fair to say had he not made such a reckless move the Iranians wouldn't have had the opportunity to eff it up so badly and those people would be alive. I'm still trying to understand how the Iranians could have been operating regular commercial flights the same day they're launching rockets.

It does also highlight how most of the rest of the world views Iran under a different lens. Imagine, Iranian kids going to college in Canada. I thought they were all terrorists.


Haven't seen this either, not once.

Of course you haven't its another made up narrative by republicans to present any one with different view is un American or Iranian sympathizer..

But OMG the right being called deplorables . They were outraged

But calling others un American or sympathizer must be how they intend to make America great again
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump, but it is fair to say had he not made such a reckless move the Iranians wouldn't have had the opportunity to eff it up so badly and those people would be alive.

Indirect blame is blame none-the-less. And it is a cowardly and often stupid way of avoiding direct responsibility by making it seem to appear that blame is not actually being cast while it effectively is. That is what you are doing here--pretending that you are not directly saying it was Trumps fault, yet making it "fair to say" that his action is responsible since if he hadn't done it, the plane would not have been shot down and those people would be alive.

And you fail to note the infinite other "flapping of butterflies wings" that could have led to the tragedy. For instance, if Soleimani had not killed thousands and thousands of people, including Americans, this tragedy wouldn't have happened. If Iran didn't sponsor terrorism and try to rule over Iraq, it wouldn't have happened. And the myriad other if's that led up to what is going on now. It is stupid to claim that there was a singular causal relationship between the killing of Soleimani and the plane being shot down. And it is more cowardly, devious, and dirty to just imply it.


I'm still trying to understand how the Iranians could have been operating regular commercial flights the same day they're launching rockets.

Perhaps they were being reckless.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jacki...b6da971d13f559

“If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States,” Speier said.
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