if trump wins in november, here’s why

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

can you be clear? it was ok when obama did it, but immoral for
trump to expand on it. That’s your position?

Somehow it was less traumatic for the kids obama caged, than it was for the ones Trump did?

Or are you saying that the kids Ibama caged, deserves it somehow?

Why was it ok when obama
did it, but bad when Trump did it? please be specific.

And if the ICE official has the authority to unilaterally decide to do things differently, it’s interesting that none of the democrats on the committee said that to him, yet you know it to be true.
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The ICE official did not set policy, he carried it out.

If you want to claim that laws have to be enforced, make sure and tell the officer that the next time you get stopped for speeding. He has no choice but to give you a ticket! And get every mile over the limit.

The policy of the Floridaman maladministration was and seems to still be to separate all children from their parents.

The Bush and Obama administrations made the conscious choice to separate as few as possible. In some cases this needs to happen, but not the maximum possible. You forget the detail that border traffic was much higher in those years, till it was reduced by half under Obama, more than double what it was when Floridaman took office.
That is one thing Floridaman has not been able to continue, it is now back up to where it was.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The ICE official did not set policy, he carried it out.

If you want to claim that laws have to be enforced, make sure and tell the officer that the next time you get stopped for speeding. He has no choice but to give you a ticket! And get every mile over the limit.

The policy of the Floridaman maladministration was and seems to still be to separate all children from their parents.

The Bush and Obama administrations made the conscious choice to separate as few as possible. In some cases this needs to happen, but not the maximum possible. You forget the detail that border traffic was much higher in those years, till it was reduced by half under Obama, more than double what it was when Floridaman took office.
That is one thing Floridaman has not been able to continue, it is now back up to where it was.

Pete, you dodged on the issue of
kids in cages. How come?

When i get a warning for speeding, that’s not the officer disregarding the law. if he ignored my speeding, that’s disregarding the law. cops very explicitly, are allowed to use their judgment in determining the punishment for
my breaking the law. A warning is a punishment.

You’re really, really having a bad day. Go read my post about Feinstein ( Feinstein!!!) leaning towards acquittal.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I watched the CNN clip and briefly felt some empathy for those mocked and insulted (including some of my family). But then I remembered: poisoned environment, the Middle East, Bully-in-Chief, election cheat, and Russian tool. Have at 'em, Rick Wilson. Respect is earned.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, you dodged on the issue of
kids in cages. How come?

When i get a warning for speeding, that’s not the officer disregarding the law. if he ignored my speeding, that’s disregarding the law. cops very explicitly, are allowed to use their judgment in determining the punishment for
my breaking the law. A warning is a punishment.

You’re really, really having a bad day. Go read my post about Feinstein ( Feinstein!!!) leaning towards acquittal.
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If you think cages are so horrible, why don't you complain about them?

But then I rememberedoisoned environment, the Middle East, Bully-in-Chief, election cheat, and Russian tool.