democrats kill virus relief bill

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

In Spain and Italy doctors are choosing who gets respirators or sedatives.


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this can't be true...this could never happen in a country with socialized medicine...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

this can't be true...this could never happen in a country with socialized medicine...

And more hospital beds per capita than the USA...........

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And more hospital beds per capita than the USA...........

Actually one of the best health care systems in the world.
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[scottw]

this is from an article she wrote in favor of single payer for the US March 2019



"The Italian healthcare landscape includes crumbling hospitals, doctors trained on books rather than patients, and per capita spending one-third that of the United States. And Americans like to say their medical care is the best in the world, while Italians consider their National Health Service to be hopelessly dysfunctional. (In 2000 the World Health Organization ranked the Italian system second-best on the planet. But that stellar rating was based solely on equality of access on the one hand and health outcomes such as life expectancy on the other, ignoring any on-the-ground realities in between: waiting times, emergency room efficiency, surgical statistics, etc.)"

Susan Levenstein is an American doctor who has been practicing in Italy for the past 40 years..


if you get sick would you rather be in Italy or here? be honest

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually one of the best health care systems in the world.
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The mortality numbers do not reflect your claims in this instance Jeff. Italy is hovering around 8% unfortunately while the US is steadily declining at 1.4

Let’s hope this trend continues and let that be the indicator on who has the best health care. If Bitchslappedboy is correct and Italy also has more beds per capita, then it is truly a credit to our response and preparedness. Even at 1.5 the number of deaths will be staggering.🤒
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The mortality numbers do not reflect your claims in this instance Jeff. Italy is hovering around 8% unfortunately while the US is steadily declining at 1.4
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Comparing these two numbers right now makes no sense given the differences in timing and number of variables. It’s actually pretty stupid, shortsighted and thankfully you don’t really influence things otherwise also dangerous. I’m sure Trump will cite it soon.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Comparing these two numbers right now makes no sense given the differences in timing and number of variables. It’s actually pretty stupid, shortsighted and thankfully you don’t really influence things otherwise also dangerous. I’m sure Trump will cite it soon.
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Based on Bitchslappedboy’s response this was simply the easiest way to roll out pertinent information. Given the rate in SouthKorea an optimistic outlook could keep these numbers in range. This is why I mentioned the timing of two weeks. Perhaps you haven’t paid attention to the numbers globally in your relentless pursuit of Trump. Stay safe guys.
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