Fauci estimated US death toll now he is a anti Trumper

[Pete F.]

For three years the Chosen One has bullied and bull#^&#^&#^&#^&ted his way till he met a real crisis.

In addition to destroying the means of monitoring the danger of pandemic in the NSC, he allowed the removal of the ability to monitor pandemics worldwide firsthand.

If you think that he was not told about Covid-19 and the dangers starting in November you are smoking too much dope.
If it was in the National Intelligence Daily at that time, it certainly would have been brought up in the President's Daily Brief.
Think that a total shutdown of a province in China escaped our satellite surveillance, but piles of urns outside funeral homes is known, really?

This administration failed to take the necessary steps to save american lives, not for lack of knowledge but because it was hoped that it would just go away one day, like a miracle. Don't say anything it will upset the economy, make the DOW drop and possibly hurt my election chances.

All the records exist that will show what was known, the decisions made and we are now seeing what happens when we elect a malignant narcissist as President.
I'm amazed that you are impressed and believe that he is even a semi-capable president, all he has done is proven what I thought since he came down the escalator.
He is a conman.
He has spent his whole life scamming people.
He still is running the con.
He cannot stop because without the con, he is nothing.

His daily rally is on now, you better go watch.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

We can now read the Imperial College report on COVID-19 that led to the extreme measures we've seen in the US this week. Read it; it's terrifying. I'll offer a summary in this thread; please correct me if I've gotten it wrong.

Here's what would happen: 80% of Americans would get the disease. 0.9% of them would die. Between 4 and 8 percent of all Americans over the age of 70 would die. 2.2 million Americans would die from the virus itself.

It gets worse. People with severe COVID-19 need to be put on ventilators. 50% of those on ventilators still die, but the other 50% live. But in an unmitigated epidemic, the need for ventilators would be 30 times the number available in the US. Nearly 100% of these patients die.

So the actual death toll from the virus would be closer to 4 million Americans -- in a span of 3 months. 8-15% of all Americans over 70 would die.

How many is 4 million people? It's more Americans than have died all at once from anything, ever. It's the population of Los Angeles. It's 4 times the number of Americans who died in the Civil War...on both sides combined. It's two-thirds as many people as died in the Holocaust.

hey pete...if millions of americans don't die in the coming weeks as you predicted, an outcome which I'm sure will greatly disappoint you...will you give him some credit?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

hey pete...if millions of americans don't die in the coming weeks as you predicted, an outcome which I'm sure will greatly disappoint you...will you give him some credit?

Is there any question that he'll give him some credit?

Not only will he not give him credit, he won't admit the modelers were wrong, unless they are republicans.

[scottw]

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

Did you notice that when a hurricane was coming the media would try its best to scare everyone to death to evacuate and run for the hills to lower death tolls along the coastal flood plains??? It’s the same here. They gave huge numbers to scare everyone into locking down. I’m cool with it.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Did you notice that when a hurricane was coming the media would try its best to scare everyone to death to evacuate and run for the hills to lower death tolls along the coastal flood plains??? It’s the same here. They gave huge numbers to scare everyone into locking down. I’m cool with it.
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No, that's not all they did. Very early on, after Trump issued the travel restrictions, MANY in the mainstream media downplayed the severity of the virus, saying that Trumps restrictions were a stupid over reaction, that the virus wasn't that bad, that we had more to fear from government over-reach than from the virus. You conveniently left that part out.

Headlines from the Washington Post, very much a mainstream media outlet...

“Get a grippe, America. The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus, for now,” read a Post story from Feb. 1, written by a Post staffer.

“How our brains make coronavirus seem scarier than it is,” read another Post story, from Jan. 31, written by a guest commenter from Harvard University.

“Why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus,” read the third headline, from a Feb. 3 Post article co-authored by two academics from Northwestern University

And again, on February 27, Nancy Pelosi was wandering on San Francisco's Chinatown district, telling her citizens to go out to crowded public places.

But only Trump made any mistakes.

[Pete F.]

The White House was warned repeatedly in November & December 2019 that the US military's National Center for Medical Intelligence concluded the outbreak in China could be a “cataclysmic event”.

“I would view it as something that surprised the whole world.”
~Trump, 3/19/20

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

Actually seems that the model was assuming only 50-60% social distancing. Actually been closer to 90% so much less spread. People actually listened, mostly, so far.

Still a ways to go especially if another city(ies) become new hot spots.
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[scottw]

all I said was I'm glad they are moving in a good direction...you guys are WAY too sensitive

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

all I said was I'm glad they are moving in a good direction...you guys are WAY too sensitive

I didn't claim otherwise. Was just adding context.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Actually seems that the model was assuming only 50-60% social distancing. Actually been closer to 90% so much less spread. People actually listened, mostly, so far.

Still a ways to go especially if another city(ies) become new hot spots.
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Nobody is happier than our President to see the trend. Not a miracle of course but also a far cry from the worst case scenario that some seemed blame on Trump. It’s great to see the country pull together with a common goal.👍🏿
Let’s hope the trend continues and we can all enjoy the low price at the pump this summer. Throw in some calm seas and we are golden.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Actually seems that the model was assuming only 50-60% social distancing. Actually been closer to 90% so much less spread. People actually listened, mostly, so far.

Still a ways to go especially if another city(ies) become new hot spots.
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Exactly and imagine where we would have been had there been a call early on to take this seriously and not downplay it until it was obviously going to explode without hard calls to stay home and keep a physical distance if you had to go out.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Exactly and imagine where we would have been had there been a call early on to take this seriously and not downplay it until it was obviously going to explode without hard calls to stay home and keep a physical distance if you had to go out.

right probably nobody would have contracted it and/or died...like the rest of the world...good grief...