Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

[Pete F.]

Has Donald Trump condemned his racist supporter Kyle Rittenhous who murderered 2 people in Kenosha last night?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Has Donald Trump condemned his racist supporter Kyle Rittenhous who murderered 2 people in Kenosha last night?
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He patted him on the back saying "job well done!" And said he would pardon him.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He patted him on the back saying "job well done!" And said he would pardon him.

And he’ll headline the RNC tonight

Trump won’t condemn the 17 year-old killer because it’s exactly the message he wants to send. Take to the streets and my people will kill you. That kid was just as much a part of his movement as the anonymous federal troops.

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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And he’ll headline the RNC tonight

Trump won’t condemn the 17 year-old killer because it’s exactly the message he wants to send. Take to the streets and my people will kill you. That kid was just as much a part of his movement as the anonymous federal troops.

Attaboy Herr Goebbels, extend the big lie.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Attaboy Herr Goebbels, extend the big lie.

How do Trump aides see Kenosha? Here's Kellyanne Conway to Fox this AM on what they see as political upside: "The more chaos and anarchy and vandalism and violence reigns, the better it is for the very clear choice on who's best on public safety, and law and order."
As I said in May Tweety will never do anything to stop riots and disorder, they are great for him.
Much better than talking about his failed response to COVID-19, 5M infected and 180K dead.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

How do Trump aides see Kenosha? Here's Kellyanne Conway to Fox this AM on what they see as political upside: "The more chaos and anarchy and vandalism and violence reigns, the better it is for the very clear choice on who's best on public safety, and law and order."
As I said in May Tweety will never do anything to stop riots and disorder, they are great for him.
Much better than talking about his failed response to COVID-19, 5M infected and 180K dead.
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This is rich. If he sends in the troops, you'll accuse him of breaking the Constitution. If the local authorities don't stop the violence and vandalism, you blame him for not stopping it and playing politics. And then you claim that it is mostly peaceful when the violence and vandalism are pointed out.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Has Donald Trump condemned his racist supporter Kyle Rittenhous who murderered 2 people in Kenosha last night?
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Let me explain, no there is too much. Let me sum up.

For three months streets in this country have been mostly peacefully protested (riot) while some real murders and some imagined have occured, but consistently due process and waiting for the facts has been ignored.

For three months extremes on both sides, but mostly the left, have been crossing state lines to mostly peacefully protest (riot).

Kenosha Wisconsin several days ago, police are responding to a Domestic Violence call where they try to apprehend Blake, someone with open warrants, and if some articles are true, restraining orders for him not to be there.

Reports are that officers wrestled with Blake, he had a knife, and he broke free and went into his vehicle (the officers will not know if he has a gun as well). Officer shoots Blake in the back. Tragic. In Normal times we would let the investigation runs its course. We are not in normal times.

This caused riots mostly peacefully protests. Some armed people went to protect areas from looting. A 17 year old kid (foolishly) went to support and after various events was separated from group, charged by several people, kicked by one, hit with a skateboard by another, and one of the people charging him, wearing “paramedic” gear and carrying a Glock (unsure of its medical utility), firing in the air. Seventeen year old kid shoots people. Seventeen year old kid calls cops.

NYT people did a walk through on social media posted videos and actually got some of the timeline and posted the OSINT in Twitter. Interesting read, and seemingly more accurate than what they published in the paper.

If the facts remotely mean anything, check your effing bias for a minute and read it.

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Let me explain, no there is too much. Let me sum up.

For three months streets in this country have been mostly peacefully protested (riot) while some real murders and some imagined have occured, but consistently due process and waiting for the facts has been ignored.

For three months extremes on both sides, but mostly the left, have been crossing state lines to mostly peacefully protest (riot).

Kenosha Wisconsin several days ago, police are responding to a Domestic Violence call where they try to apprehend Blake, someone with open warrants, and if some articles are true, restraining orders for him not to be there.

Reports are that officers wrestled with Blake, he had a knife,Blake had a knife on the driver's side floorboard and had no other weapons, the DOJ said in a news release. and he broke free and went into his vehicle (the officers will not know if he has a gun as well). Officer shoots Blake in the back. Tragic. In Normal times we would let the investigation runs its course. We are not in normal times.

This caused riots mostly peacefully protests. Some armed people went to protect areas from looting. A 17 year old kid (foolishly) went to support and after various events was separated from group, charged by several people, kicked by one, hit with a skateboard by another, and one of the people charging him, wearing “paramedic” gear and carrying a Glock (unsure of its medical utility), firing in the air. Seventeen year old kid shoots people. Seventeen year old kid calls cops.

NYT people did a walk through on social media posted videos and actually got some of the timeline and posted the OSINT in Twitter. Interesting read, and seemingly more accurate than what they published in the paper.

If the facts remotely mean anything, check your effing bias for a minute and read it.

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809

As I said 3 months ago, there is a great advantage to Tweety in encouraging riots.

Wait till this afternoon when we see Tweety in his Rose Garden Presser try and pivot the attention from the virus to the riots.
Just like in the 1968 race, when Roger Ailes told Nixon to pivot from Vietnam to the post-King riots.
Nixon went full-on "law and order" not only about African Americans but also about the hippy proto-Bernie Bros in Chicago.

Ailes knew the secret "law and order" was a code for race and for culture anxiety in 1968. The language, the "Silent Majority" crap, the aggrieved whining is 1968 all over again.

Tweety wants the coverage of burning buildings. Tweety wants the cops v protesters.

By later today, you'll see posts about law and order backing a lawless and orderless Administration led by a criminal. Bannon, Miller, and the rest of the Trump fluffers ADORE this culture war.

They're ALREADY modeling how the rioting plays for campaign messaging, I promise you.


Just what do you think is going to happen if you allow vigilantes to play cop?

Here is the shooter being offered and tossed a bottled water out of a LEO vehicle. “We appreciate you guys being out here.”

https://twitter.com/randomanne/statu...764782080?s=20

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Kenosha Wisconsin several days ago, police are responding to a Domestic Violence call where they try to apprehend Blake, someone with open warrants, and if some articles are true, restraining orders for him not to be there.

Reports are that officers wrestled with Blake, he had a knife, and he broke free and went into his vehicle (the officers will not know if he has a gun as well). Officer shoots Blake in the back. Tragic. In Normal times we would let the investigation runs its course. We are not in normal times.

Sounds like they need to speed up their acquisitions of body cameras.

I've read he had a knife in the car, I keep one in the car also. It appears he did have an open warrant for a small domestic issue in July. We don't know if the officers even knew about it. That being said after watching both videos I can't see any justification for 7 shots into the back of someone who's not acting in a violent manner to anyone around and has three kids in the car.