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			09-16-2020, 07:28 AM
			
			
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				Gotta love those “alternative facts” and keep in mind “truth isn’t truth”  
 
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 Pete, I'll ask you the same question that clobbered Spence...can you name any major issues, or important principles of yours, for which you think liberals are wrong and conservatives are right?
 
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			09-16-2020, 07:54 AM
			
			
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		 Try the deficit 
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			09-16-2020, 08:12 AM
			
			
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				Try the deficit 
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 so when obama was president, you opposed his spending?
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			09-16-2020, 08:53 AM
			
			
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		 Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase. 
Now tell me how Tweety has done on 
Deficit  
Trade 
Healthcare  
Military Spending 
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			09-16-2020, 09:08 AM
			
			
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				Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase. 
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 Obama didn't produce the economic "expansion."  The Trump economy was not the same as the Obama economy.  the Trump economy was not an expansion nor a continuation of the Obama economy.  The basic federal input and effect on the economy, taxation and regulation were substantially changed in the Trump economy.  It was a different economic structure, not a continuation and refinement of the Obama economy.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Numbers don’t lie 
 
That’s why now Tweety’s campaign message seems to be, “everything bad happening in America today is Joe Biden’s fault, and I alone can fix it.” Americans aren’t that dumb. 
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			09-16-2020, 09:25 AM
			
			
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 The tax and regulatory numbers between the two economies are different, not the same nor even similar.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-16-2020, 09:31 AM
			
			
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That’s why now Tweety’s campaign message seems to be, “everything bad happening in America today is Joe Biden’s fault, and I alone can fix it.” Americans aren’t that dumb. 
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True. And the Dems campaing message is Trump is a traitorous Russian Nazi Simp that will get us into wars, wreck the economy, and destroy the moon after he kills everyone with his virus. 
 
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			09-16-2020, 09:31 AM
			
			
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				Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase. 
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 so you’re not opposed to obama’s deficit spending.  therefore i don’t know why you specified that as an item 
on which you agree with conservatives and not liberals.
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		 An expanding economy, which Tweety falsely claims to be the greatest ever, is not when conservatives have ever said we should be increasing the deficit. 
Trumplicans are all on board. 
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			09-16-2020, 09:44 AM
			
			
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				The tax and regulatory numbers between the two economies are different, not the same nor even similar. 
			
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 First, data shows that the economy closely followed the same course in the first three years of Tweety’s administration that it did over the last seven years of Obama’s. 
Second Tweety rang up trillions of new dept even before the Trump virus. 
He owns it, remember the buck stops here  
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			09-16-2020, 10:15 AM
			
			
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				First, data shows that the economy closely followed the same course in the first three years of Tweety’s administration that it did over the last seven years of Obama’s. 
 
That's doesn't mean that it would have done so if Trump had continued Obama's economic structure.  In fact, it was predicted by the Dems that Trump's economy would do the opposite of what happened.   If you're saying that two different economies would produce the same results, then credit for either is meaningless. 
 
They were two basically different economic structures.  It can't rationally be claimed that an economy is an expansion of a totally different one.   Of course, you can claim it (spin it) so anyway. 
 
 
Second Tweety rang up trillions of new dept even before the Trump virus. 
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 Congress rang up that new debt.  The buck stops there.  Trump requested a necessary strengthening of the military which is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government.  It's up to Congress to either deny the request, or cut other, especially non constitutional, spending to accommodate the necessary military spending.
 
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			09-16-2020, 10:58 AM
			
			
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		 The way you seem to think this works is if it’s good Tweety did it, bad it’s not his responsibility. 
Sorry you’re wrong 
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			09-16-2020, 11:22 AM
			
			
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				Pete, I'll ask you the same question that clobbered Spence... 
			
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				An expanding economy, which Tweety falsely claims to be the greatest ever, is not when conservatives have ever said we should be increasing the deficit. 
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 Pete, I don't have a problem with most of Obama's spending.  You're the one who said "deficits" are an area where you think conservatives are right and liberals are wrong, yet you immediately defended and praised Obama's deficit spending.
 
SO for the second time, pleaser list a major policy on which you think conservatives are right and liberals are wrong.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Passenger profiling on airlines is an easy one 
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			09-16-2020, 12:28 PM
			
			
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				Passenger profiling on airlines is an easy one 
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			09-16-2020, 12:32 PM
			
			
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			09-16-2020, 02:32 PM
			
			
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				The way you seem to think this works is if it’s good Tweety did it, bad it’s not his responsibility. 
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			09-17-2020, 07:34 PM
			
			
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		 Don’t worry, I don’t count on you thinking much 
Remember this morning, when Trump was credibly accused of sexual assault? For the 26th time? 
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			09-17-2020, 11:27 PM
			
			
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				Remember this morning, when Trump was credibly accused of sexual assault? For the 26th time? 
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