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11-03-2020, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i thought he killed all the farmers with tariffs? that’s what the Narrative was a couple of years ago.
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I believe it’s about 46 billion in taxpayer funded subsidies this year alone.
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11-03-2020, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I believe it’s about 46 billion in taxpayer funded subsidies this year alone.
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But state supported farms, where the state decides what you should grow or not is obviously capitalism
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-03-2020, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
But state supported farms, where the state decides what you should grow or not is obviously capitalism
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And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.
And John supports this because it's not "progressive."
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11-03-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.
And John supports this because it's not "progressive."
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Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.
And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.
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11-03-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.
And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.
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I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?
Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-03-2020, 11:55 AM
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“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”
a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.
Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think
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11-03-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”
a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.
Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think
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i don’t like voter suppression any more than i like shenanigans with mail in ballots, which any rational person would say is vulnerable to abuse.
haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett got where she is, the way Harris did. Have you?
Harris and Barrett aren’t the same just because they’re women.
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11-03-2020, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets
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stupid. is a vote for biden a vote for plagiarism, endless race-baiting, lying, and rape?
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11-03-2020, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?
??? Not in favor of futile nation building by starting a war. Always been in favor of the collapse of Communism. And I think it's stupid to support Communism by letting our money and technology to flow to it.
Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy
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If we recapture our manufacturing capability instead of depending on China, it will lose a huge source of income. It's living off the gas from our previous letting it rape us. China's global plan needs to be exposed, and the rest of the world needs a signal that it is not necessary to let it happen.
And we certainly need to get out of depending on China for our most critical medical and technological needs. Our own corporations need to be persuaded to come back. Tariffs and tax policies are a peaceful means to achieve that. Going back to the way it was pre-Trump is slow and increasingly quicker national suicide.
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