The party of voter suppression

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

But state supported farms, where the state decides what you should grow or not is obviously capitalism
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And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.

And John supports this because it's not "progressive."

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.

And John supports this because it's not "progressive."

Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.

And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.

And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.

I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?
Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy
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[wdmso]

“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.

Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.

Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think

i don’t like voter suppression any more than i like shenanigans with mail in ballots, which any rational person would say is vulnerable to abuse.

haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett got where she is, the way Harris did. Have you?

Harris and Barrett aren’t the same just because they’re women.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i don’t like voter suppression any more than i like shenanigans with mail in ballots, which any rational person would say is vulnerable to abuse.

haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett got where she is, the way Harris did. Have you?

Harris and Barrett aren’t the same just because they’re women.
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Seems most of your suggestions are from the conspericy world . Not suprising

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

i thought biden was also catholic?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

Barrett has 5 children, one of whom
is special needs. yet she adopted two orphans from haiti.

neither you nor i will improve the world to that degree. but you dump
on her because she has an R after her name.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

conspericy

we really need to ban you from using this word...you've worn it out

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

she's pretty awesome...you are just jealous

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets

stupid. is a vote for biden a vote for plagiarism, endless race-baiting, lying, and rape?
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[Pete F.]

Keep grasping at straws, man.

Tweety has paid $27 million in fraud settlements just since becoming president, and his longtime personal lawyer went to jail for crimes that prosecutors said were committed "in coordination with and at the direction of" the president.
And he claims he is "perhaps the most innocent man anywhere in the history of the United States."
I'll sum up his presidency. He betrayed the country twice: he allowed a foreign power to undermine American democracy & he permitted a pandemic to do far more damage beyond what was unavoidable. And Trumplicans colluded with him. Utter treachery.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I'll sum up his presidency. He betrayed the country twice: he allowed a foreign power to undermine American democracy & he permitted a pandemic to do far more damage beyond what was unavoidable. And Trumplicans colluded with him. Utter treachery.

As Progressive as your political views on the power of our President seem to be, you don't seem to have confidence in the political jewel of Progressivism--our powerful regulatory, administrative, and intelligence agencies. They pretty much are supposed to do things like control a pandemic and defend us from foreign powers "undermining" our "democracy." They even undermine our own democracy, for instance, by attempting to remove a duly elected President. Utter treachery.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?

??? Not in favor of futile nation building by starting a war. Always been in favor of the collapse of Communism. And I think it's stupid to support Communism by letting our money and technology to flow to it.

Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy

If we recapture our manufacturing capability instead of depending on China, it will lose a huge source of income. It's living off the gas from our previous letting it rape us. China's global plan needs to be exposed, and the rest of the world needs a signal that it is not necessary to let it happen.

And we certainly need to get out of depending on China for our most critical medical and technological needs. Our own corporations need to be persuaded to come back. Tariffs and tax policies are a peaceful means to achieve that. Going back to the way it was pre-Trump is slow and increasingly quicker national suicide.