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Old 11-08-2021, 04:49 PM   #11
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
So your concern is that of the Carter Page FISA apps half were within the rules, half were not.
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Which half were within the rules and what about them was actually legitimately probable cause for a warrant? The Steele Dossier was instrumental for all the warrants including the first two. McCabe said that the FISA warrants would not have been granted without the Dossier. The FBI did not validate the information in the Dossier regarding Page. It was only the information re Page that was critical to using the Dossier as probable cause. The rest of the Dossier would not have been cause to determine a warrant on Page. Ergo, the information in the Dossier was not legally usable as probable cause

DOJ said the final two warrants were invalid. At the time they made that claim they had not made a determination on the validity of the first two, so they were not saying they were valid. And even if the DOJ had eventually determined that the first two warrants were valid, the surveillance on Page should have stopped with the last two invalid applications.

My concern, as you put it, is that lying criminals within the FBI should at least face the same consequences as those who lie to the FBI. Actually, lying FBI criminals should face even harsher penalties. Their actions put "our democracy" in greater danger than common criminals who lie to the FBI. Actually, even greater danger than the uncommon criminals who lie to the FBI. If we the people don't demand that the FBI, as well as all government agencies, stay within the rules that we bind them, then we grant them a pass to step all over our rights and lead us into a banana republic "democracy"--or worse.
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