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Old 12-21-2021, 10:18 AM   #1
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Senator Warren says Elon Musk is a free loader who doesn’t pay his fair share.

Musk will reportedly pay $11 billion in federal taxes for 2021.

We can talk all we want about how unfair it is that someone is worth tens of billions of dollars while others struggle, and you get zero argument from me that it’s unfair.

But paying $11 billion sure isn’t freeloading.

Princess Lies Through Her Teeth is a US Senator in the party which also controls the House and the white house. so if they want to make the federal income taxes more progressive, who’s stopping them?

She’s a lying, bitter, angry, unlikeable little shrew.
So a D Senator who actually has Indian blood and who you thinks is a liar gets you more upset than having almost all R Senators (and like 2/3 of all Rs ) lying about who won the last election.

Seems like the Rs are the ones who are lying, bitter, angry and more and more unlikeable little shrews.
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:18 PM   #2
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So a D Senator who actually has Indian blood and who you thinks is a liar gets you more upset than having almost all R Senators (and like 2/3 of all Rs ) lying about who won the last election.

Seems like the Rs are the ones who are lying, bitter, angry and more and more unlikeable little shrews.
she’s got as much indian blood as many, many people who don’t claim to be native american. she made that claim, in an application for a job at harvard paying $400,000 a year.

if you don’t sense anything the least but suspicious about that, of course that’s your right.

i’m very upset about republicans believing that stupid lie. i don’t like it at all, it undermines our credibility.

Fair enough? i’m much more concerned about republicans believing the big lie. at the same time it’s hysterical that this fraud of a senator ( its ok for her to get rich off college students, and it’s ok for her to get rich flipping foreclosures, but she says it’s immoral when everyone else does it - does that upset YOU?) calls someone a freeloader who has created 70,000 jobs in the US and is about to pay more than $10 billion in federal income tax.

He’s contributed infinitely more than Princess Spreading Bull ever will.

But he’s a freeloader.

Makes all kinds of sense.

Paul, what’s your opinion of a senator who makes tons of money off of college students and flipping foreclosed houses, who at the same time shrieks in front of cameras that it’s immoral for banks to do the same exact thing? why is it ok when she does it? why is she entitled to enrich herself in ways she’d deny to others?

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she’s got as much indian blood as many, many people who don’t claim to be native american. she made that claim, in an application for a job at harvard paying $400,000 a year.

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She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?
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She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?
i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.
Actually she was recruited for the position because of her stellar resume. The checked the Native American box for the directory after she was hired. The two main people who recommended Harvard hire her were interview and said that no idea of any claimed native heritage.
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i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school facultybut you are claiming something else - that she was hired BECAUSE she claimed she was Indian. . they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat? Well, you're making the accusation but don't seem to have any (zero) proof of the claim.

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.

So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.

So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?
"Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post."

You responded to part of it, and ignored my question. Was my question offensive? I'm very sorry.

"So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?"

I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..

You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.

Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?

What has Warren done, which can compare to that?
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I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..
No, but you yourself admit you made good compensation - teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level w/o a law degree and prior experience at other schools (and not at the elite college level). Would it be appropriate for a person making min. wage to claim you were "making tons of money off grammer school kids" as they could consider your pay outrageous? Sounds like you and Warren were paid the standard rate for their position based on the need and your experience. Plus if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards her salary.
You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.

Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?

What has Warren done, which can compare to that?
Well what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?

I agree w/her that the rich don't pay their fair share by how many accumulate their wealth (stock), borrow against it and never pay their fair share in taxes. I don't agree with the proposal to tax wealth but something has to be be done. What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?
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i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family.
Now tell us how as a purportedly rational person you decried that behavior and then support Mnuchin, or is he another guy you don’t really like
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She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family.
Now tell us how as a purportedly rational person you decried that behavior and then support Mnuchin, or is he another guy you don’t really like
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"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.

The problem is, she attached banks for doing the same thing she did. She also got very rich off the backs of students who took out loans to pay her massive salary, but again, she says it's immoral for anyone else to profit off student loans.

No hypocrisy there? None?

"then support Mnuchin"

I generally have no use for Manchin (is that you you mean?), he talks like a Republican at home to get votes, then goes to DC and votes like Chuck Schumer. I don't like him, but I'm glad he torpedoed this bill. Though I'd bet he's holding out for more pork for WV, I don't believe he actually voted on principle. He has positioned himself as the most powerful person in the country right now. Even the president has to kiss his ring.

But I doubt you were critical of McCain when he killed Republican attempts to revise Obamacare. If that's heroic, so is what Manchin did. What's good for the goose...
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"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.
Actually she was buying them for family to renovate and resell because they apparently couldn't get the loans on their own. I'm not sure she even really made much money doing it.

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SHE DID NOT

Please Jim, if you're so objective as you say do a little homework.
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"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.

The problem is, she attached banks for doing the same thing she did. She also got very rich off the backs of students who took out loans to pay her massive salary, but again, she says it's immoral for anyone else to profit off student loans.

No hypocrisy there? None?

"then support Mnuchin"

I generally have no use for Manchin (is that you you mean?), he talks like a Republican at home to get votes, then goes to DC and votes like Chuck Schumer. I don't like him, but I'm glad he torpedoed this bill. Though I'd bet he's holding out for more pork for WV, I don't believe he actually voted on principle. He has positioned himself as the most powerful person in the country right now. Even the president has to kiss his ring.

But I doubt you were critical of McCain when he killed Republican attempts to revise Obamacare. If that's heroic, so is what Manchin did. What's good for the goose...
First of all she didn’t make her money thru flipping foreclosures.
And an endowed chair is funded thru an endowment, not tuition and the person is chosen because of their status in their field.

Mnuchin was the guy who was called the foreclosure king.
During Mnuchin’s reign, IndyMac carried out more than 36,000 foreclosures, tossing former homeowners (including active duty military servicemen and women) onto the street without hesitation or pity by any means necessary. According to a memo obtained by investigative reporter David Dayen, OneWest, the new name that Mnuchin and his billionaire posse coined for Indybank, of which Mnuchin was now CEO and chairman, “rushed delinquent homeowners out of their homes by violating notice and waiting period statutes, illegally backdated key documents, and effectively gamed foreclosure auctions.”

The Koch brothers still own a lot of real estate, but their best investment may be the Manchin they bought in West Virginia.
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