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12-21-2021, 04:33 PM
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i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school facultybut you are claiming something else - that she was hired BECAUSE she claimed she was Indian. . they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.
you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat? Well, you're making the accusation but don't seem to have any (zero) proof of the claim.
i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.
So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?
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12-21-2021, 05:22 PM
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.
So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?
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"Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post."
You responded to part of it, and ignored my question. Was my question offensive? I'm very sorry.
"So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?"
I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..
You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.
Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?
What has Warren done, which can compare to that?
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12-21-2021, 05:43 PM
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I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..
No, but you yourself admit you made good compensation - teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level w/o a law degree and prior experience at other schools (and not at the elite college level). Would it be appropriate for a person making min. wage to claim you were "making tons of money off grammer school kids" as they could consider your pay outrageous? Sounds like you and Warren were paid the standard rate for their position based on the need and your experience. Plus if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards her salary.
You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.
Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?
What has Warren done, which can compare to that?
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Well what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?
I agree w/her that the rich don't pay their fair share by how many accumulate their wealth (stock), borrow against it and never pay their fair share in taxes. I don't agree with the proposal to tax wealth but something has to be be done. What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?
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12-21-2021, 05:47 PM
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Well what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?
I agree w/her that the rich don't pay their fair share by how many accumulate their wealth (stock), borrow against it and never pay their fair share in taxes. I don't agree with the proposal to tax wealth but something has to be be done. What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?
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"you yourself admit you made good compensation"
I htink I made about $40k a year when I stopped. One tenth of Warren.
"teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level "
No, sorry, SHE taught one class (I believe) at Harvard when she was making 400k.
Paul, here's the difference.. I wasn't telling others doing what I did, that they were evil. Warren did that. She said it was immoral to profit from students taking out loans. Yes she did exactly that, she profited quite nicely.
"if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards here salary."
Cash is fungible, come on. You can't say any one kids tuition goes to any one expense.
"what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?"
"Everyone else" isn't calling him a freeloader.
I tried a few times, you keep dodging. You don't usually do that like this.
Have a great holiday, hope you are all happy and safe.
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12-21-2021, 06:23 PM
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"you yourself admit you made good compensation"
I htink I made about $40k a year when I stopped. One tenth of Warren.
"teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level "
No, sorry, SHE taught one class (I believe) at Harvard when she was making 400k.
Paul, here's the difference.. I wasn't telling others doing what I did, that they were evil. Warren did that. She said it was immoral to profit from students taking out loans. Yes she did exactly that, she profited quite nicely.
"if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards here salary."
Cash is fungible, come on. You can't say any one kids tuition goes to any one expense.
"what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?"
"Everyone else" isn't calling him a freeloader.
I tried a few times, you keep dodging. You don't usually do that like this.
Have a great holiday, hope you are all happy and safe.
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Sorry I thought you had said you taught one class. It doesn't change the fact that both you and Warren were paid appropriately for your positions. That apparently is the going rate for college professors. And also the going rate for teachers. So unless other teachers teaching one class at Harvard with that experience were making less money it should be a non-issue. Plus there does not appear to be any proof at all that she got her position due to the fact that she was Native American. Thank you, you too have a Merry Christmas
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12-21-2021, 06:47 PM
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Sorry I thought you had said you taught one class. It doesn't change the fact that both you and Warren were paid appropriately for your positions. That apparently is the going rate for college professors. And also the going rate for teachers. So unless other teachers teaching one class at Harvard with that experience were making less money it should be a non-issue. Plus there does not appear to be any proof at all that she got her position due to the fact that she was Native American. Thank you, you too have a Merry Christmas
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my bad, the way I wrote that, anyone would think i meant i taught only one class. Some days i wish i only had one class!
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12-21-2021, 06:50 PM
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Sorry I thought you had said you taught one class. It doesn't change the fact that both you and Warren were paid appropriately for your positions. That apparently is the going rate for college professors. And also the going rate for teachers. So unless other teachers teaching one class at Harvard with that experience were making less money it should be a non-issue. Plus there does not appear to be any proof at all that she got her position due to the fact that she was Native American. Thank you, you too have a Merry Christmas
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One last time.
Warren profited from a system
that gets a ton of revenue from students taking out loans.
Warren also said it was evil
for others ( banks) to do the same thing.
it has nothing to do with me or with other teachers or with the price of tea in China. Just her.
Why is it unethical for banks to profit from student loans, but no big deal when she does it?
Same thing with foreclosed homes. It was ok for her to profit from other people’s misfortune, but she says it’s bad when banks do the same
exact thing?
All that matters, is Warren saying that those two things are immoral, when she herself was doing them.
others were teaching at harvard, others made money flipping foreclosures. she’s not the only one. but she was a us senator saying on national tv that making money that way is evil.
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12-21-2021, 05:53 PM
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What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?
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he paid what he owed. $0.
there’s no taxable income until you liquidate an asset.
We’re getting $11 billion from one guy. That’s not enough?
if you have a house, it’s worth a lot right now. you should have to pay taxes on that, before you sell it?
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