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Old 05-16-2022, 07:59 PM   #1
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[QUOTE=Pete F.;1226862]
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No, it sounds like I believe in the rule of law, not someone with a gun being judge and jury.
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Rittenhouse believes in the rule of law. Self defense is legal. He was not convicted of breaking any law.

Yet, you seem to be a judge and jury about him being a vigilante. You sound like an authoritarian, not like a believer in the rule of law.
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Old 05-16-2022, 08:09 PM   #2
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Rittenhouse believes in the rule of law. Self defense is legal. He was not convicted of breaking any law.

Yet, you seem to be a judge and jury about him being a vigilante. You sound like an authoritarian, not like a believer in the rule of law.
If you travel across state borders out of your normal residence, bring a weapon and claim to be defending you’re a vigilante.
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Old 05-16-2022, 08:41 PM   #3
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If you travel across state borders out of your normal residence, bring a weapon and claim to be defending you’re a vigilante.
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He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting. And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there. It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.
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Old 05-16-2022, 08:43 PM   #4
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He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.
he can’t stop
lying, because the truth doesn’t tell his story.
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:40 PM   #5
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He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting. And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there. It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.
vig·i·lan·te
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a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

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Old 05-17-2022, 02:23 PM   #6
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vig·i·lan·te
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a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism. And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.

Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police. Works really well when you're being attacked.
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Old 05-17-2022, 02:45 PM   #7
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Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism. And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.

Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police. Works really well when you're being attacked.
BLM protesters were “rioters”

January 6th insurrectionists were “peaceful tourists”

Ashley Babbitt was a “martyr”

George Floyd was a “thug”

Kyle Rittenhouse was a “hero”

The common theme is always the same: vilify the oppressed, glorify the powerful
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Old 05-17-2022, 03:11 PM   #8
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BLM protesters were “rioters”

January 6th insurrectionists were “peaceful tourists”

Ashley Babbitt was a “martyr”

George Floyd was a “thug”

Kyle Rittenhouse was a “hero”

The common theme is always the same: vilify the oppressed, glorify the powerful
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The Jan6 protesters, Ashley Babbitt, Kyle Rittenhouse, were powerful? Really? You're straining hard to create one of your conjectured lies here. But you're right, Floyd was a thug (who was transformed into a "martyr"). And was more of an oppressor, than an oppressed.

It's a common theme with you--create narratives that are not true--in other words, lying.
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