Kansas abortion vote set for Aug. 2

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, if I wanted the state to take care of me, you're right, I'm better off in CT than I am in FL or TN. But if I want to work hard and be left alone, I'm way better off elsewhere.Well the difference is that I know many people aren't capable of making it on their own and need help

This is why CT is losing people like me. CT is great if you're wealthy, and better than the south if you want to live off the stateSee you ignore people less fortunate than yourself.. For people between those two extremes, financially you're WAY better off in a well run red state. Americans are seeing that, and acting on it.

When you make a city or state as attractive as possible for people who don't want to take care of themselvesagain, you ignore people who can't "take care of themselves", and as difficult as possible for people who want to be left alone, this is what you get.

You admitted that the only "service" I get in CT that I wouldn't get elsewhere, is better welfare. Well, that's not a reason for me to stay and fork over hundreds of thousands of dollars to the state that I'd get to keep if I moved. And others see the same thing, and are fleeing.

I never admitted any such thing. Ive been steadfast in not discussing one state vs another as you keep trying to do. I'm looking at the country as a whole and posted interesting stats showing that those states who want to do away with abortion seem to not care about the babies and moms after the baby is born. It seems to me there is a common thread in many of the stats posted. Show no concern for people less fortunate as long as the taxes are lower.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I never admitted any such thing. Ive been steadfast in not discussing one state vs another as you keep trying to do. I'm looking at the country as a whole and posted interesting stats showing that those states who want to do away with abortion seem to not care about the babies and moms after the baby is born. It seems to me there is a common thread in many of the stats posted. Show no concern for people less fortunate as long as the taxes are lower.

if that’s not what you admitted, then tell me what my kids and i get for the hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra taxes i’ll pay in CT over my career. for that amount of money, shouldn’t i expect a lot?? and i can’t think of anything.

oh i get why guy don’t want to discuss states. If i were a liberal, it’s the last thing I’d want to discuss. but looking at states tells a story.

if the people you say are neglected by their state are really neglected, why don’t they move?

some people
make unhealthy or unproductive choices, some people
make better choices, it has very little to do with what the state does.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if that’s not what you admitted, then tell me what my kids and i get for the hundreds of thousands of solars in extra taxes i’ll pay in CT over my career. for that amount of money, shouldn’t i expect a lot?? and i can’t think of anything.


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you are funding the failed red states where the populations can't compete with the superior blue states and need your handouts to survive...hopefully they will send you some moonshine to show their appreciation....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are funding the failed red states where the populations can't compete with the superior blue states and need your handouts to survive...hopefully they will send you some moonshine to show their appreciation....

i’m expecting a care package of fried twinkies and meth from those i support in Hollis NH, where you can’t get a house for less than $700k.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m expecting a care package of fried twinkies and meth from those i support in Hollis NH, where you can’t get a house for less than $700k.
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maybe a pair of overalls?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if that’s not what you admitted, then tell me what my kids and i get for the hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra taxes i’ll pay in CT over my career. for that amount of money, shouldn’t i expect a lot?? and i can’t think of anything. 100s of K of higher salaries. Look at the median salaries by states

oh i get why guy don’t want to discuss states. If i were a liberal, it’s the last thing I’d want to discuss. but looking at states tells a story. And If I was a cons. the last thing I would want to discuss is any stats showing how bad the conser. states are.

if the people you say are neglected by their state are really neglected, why don’t they move?

some people
make unhealthy or unproductive choices, some people
make better choices, it has very little to do with what the state does.
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Look at the median salaries. Taxes are only one aspect.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Look at the median salaries. Taxes are only one aspect.

"100s of K of higher salaries. Look at the median salaries by states"

You're assuming that salary is due to the state. I can destroy that, by saying, correctly, that huge numbers of people move from CT to cheaper states and keep their same salaries. The CT state government doesn't set median salary in the state.

"And If I was a cons. the last thing I would want to discuss is any stats showing how bad the conser. states are."

Hollis and Brookline (in NH) are bad? Franklin TN is bad? The suburbs of Charlotte (like Fort Mill, SC) are bad?

WDMSO posted a link that said FL had the hottest real estate price growth in the nation. That cannot happen in a bad state.

Rich people from CT who move to FL, don't turn into swamp hillbillies. The state government doesn't influence that. People decide that for themselves.

"Look at the median salaries."

My salary would stay the same. Other people's salary is their concern.

"Taxes are only one aspect."

True. Red states also offer cheaper college, utilities, food, gas, etc. And even if you live in a place with crappy schools (which you don't have to), you can use your tax savings to go to catholic school.

I posted a study from US News and World Report. The public high schools in Franklin TN and Hollis NH were ranked way higher than the public high school in Southington CT where I live. Way, way higher.

What I can get in some red states - Same exact salary, lower taxes, better schools.

[Got Stripers]

Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.

right. never mind smaller classes, higher test scores, and no woke liberal bullsh*t. at a far lower price then what public schools spend per pupil.

the catholic K-8 school in my town has 8-10 kids per class, has insane average test scores, and charges about $5200 a year. the public schools in my town have lower test scores, triple the average class size,,and spend $14k per kid


lemme guess from the stupid and bigoted comment of yours, you went to public school. it shows.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

right. never mind smaller classes, higher test scores, and no woke liberal bullsh*t. at a far lower price then what public schools spend per pupil.

the catholic K-8 school in my town has 8-10 kids per class, has insane average test scores, and charges about $5200 a year. the public schools in my town have lower test scores, triple the average class size,,and spend $14k per kid


lemme guess from the stupid and bigoted comment of yours, you went to public school. it shows.
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Yup damn good time, played on the varsity tennis, wrestling and soccer teams. The wife who went to Catholic school hated every minute and has commented many times she wished she had access to any kind of sports program. She's got some good (if you like BS and mind torture) stories, you can have your religion buddy, it's perfect for you and clearly you probably have had it drilled (hope not from behind) into you.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.

Catholic schools are great. If you are amongst the few who can afford them or be lucky enough to get a free ride.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Catholic schools are great. If you are amongst the few who can afford them or be lucky enough to get a free ride.

and if more states had taxes like NH or FL, would that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

how about school
choice? does that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

if your blue states care so much about lifting people out of poverty, why do they oppose school choice? why forced those kids to be stuck in failing schools?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"100s of K of higher salaries. Look at the median salaries by states"

You're assuming that salary is due to the state.Never claimed that once. I can destroy that, by saying, correctly, that huge numbers of people move from CT to cheaper states and keep their same salaries. The CT state government doesn't set median salary in the state.Never claimed that either

"And If I was a cons. the last thing I would want to discuss is any stats showing how bad the conser. states are."

Hollis and Brookline (in NH) are bad? Franklin TN is bad? The suburbs of Charlotte (like Fort Mill, SC) are bad?Never claimed they were. But as an actuary you should be looking at the credible #s (state wide), not outliers.

WDMSO posted a link that said FL had the hottest real estate price growth in the nation. That cannot happen in a bad state.

Rich people from CT who move to FL, don't turn into swamp hillbillies. The state government doesn't influence that. People decide that for themselves.

"Look at the median salaries."

My salary would stay the same. Other people's salary is their concern.Yes, exactly. Only concerned with yourself.
The cons. way. Better for you so who cares about the rest.

"Taxes are only one aspect."

True. Red states also offer cheaper college, utilities, food, gas, etc. And even if you live in a place with crappy schools (which you don't have to), you can use your tax savings to go to catholic school. Again, you ignore median salary stats. while stating I make things up. LOL

I posted a study from US News and World Report. The public high schools in Franklin TN and Hollis NH were ranked way higher than the public high school in Southington CT where I live. Way, way higher. could be. But again as an actuary you should be looking at the credible #s (state wide), not outliers (cities w/in states).

What I can get in some red states - Same exact salary, lower taxes, better schools.

Point out a few outliers in a set and claim that (or try to) is indicative of the whole set. LOL.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Point out a few outliers in a set and claim that (or try to) is indicative of the whole set. LOL.

i never ever said all towns in all
red states were great. LOL. i said there are terrible places in red states. So even you will employ the tired liberal tactic of responding to something that i never came close to saying.

here’s what i said.

There are some towns in america that offer a very high quality of life with very low taxes. And from what i can tell, all of them are in red states

They may be outliers, those nice suburbs in red states, but that’s where people are moving.

Paul, if there are any beautiful suburbs in blue states that have super low taxes, can you list some please? or are all such places in red states?

If certain places can offer a high quality of life at an affordable price, isn’t it possible they are doing something right? isnt it possible they’re doing something that maybe we should replicate and expand on?

CT is also an outlier because of fairfield county. doesn’t stop you from saying the whole state is represented by the data from greenwich and westport.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i never ever said all towns in all
red states were great. LOL. I never said you did.
LOL. So stop lying, i said there are terrible places in red states. So even you will employ the tired liberal tactic of responding to something that i never came close to saying. And I never claimed that all blue states are better than all red states but I'm not the one who is constantly trying to discuss outliers instead of ignoring the much larger set (states)


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And you continue to try to employ the tired cons. tactic of basically saying "it is better for me" while ignoring everyone else.