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Old 07-28-2022, 12:42 PM   #1
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Look at the median salaries. Taxes are only one aspect.
"100s of K of higher salaries. Look at the median salaries by states"

You're assuming that salary is due to the state. I can destroy that, by saying, correctly, that huge numbers of people move from CT to cheaper states and keep their same salaries. The CT state government doesn't set median salary in the state.

"And If I was a cons. the last thing I would want to discuss is any stats showing how bad the conser. states are."

Hollis and Brookline (in NH) are bad? Franklin TN is bad? The suburbs of Charlotte (like Fort Mill, SC) are bad?

WDMSO posted a link that said FL had the hottest real estate price growth in the nation. That cannot happen in a bad state.

Rich people from CT who move to FL, don't turn into swamp hillbillies. The state government doesn't influence that. People decide that for themselves.

"Look at the median salaries."

My salary would stay the same. Other people's salary is their concern.

"Taxes are only one aspect."

True. Red states also offer cheaper college, utilities, food, gas, etc. And even if you live in a place with crappy schools (which you don't have to), you can use your tax savings to go to catholic school.

I posted a study from US News and World Report. The public high schools in Franklin TN and Hollis NH were ranked way higher than the public high school in Southington CT where I live. Way, way higher.

What I can get in some red states - Same exact salary, lower taxes, better schools.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:50 PM   #2
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Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:57 PM   #3
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Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.
right. never mind smaller classes, higher test scores, and no woke liberal bullsh*t. at a far lower price then what public schools spend per pupil.

the catholic K-8 school in my town has 8-10 kids per class, has insane average test scores, and charges about $5200 a year. the public schools in my town have lower test scores, triple the average class size,,and spend $14k per kid


lemme guess from the stupid and bigoted comment of yours, you went to public school. it shows.
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right. never mind smaller classes, higher test scores, and no woke liberal bullsh*t. at a far lower price then what public schools spend per pupil.

the catholic K-8 school in my town has 8-10 kids per class, has insane average test scores, and charges about $5200 a year. the public schools in my town have lower test scores, triple the average class size,,and spend $14k per kid


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Yup damn good time, played on the varsity tennis, wrestling and soccer teams. The wife who went to Catholic school hated every minute and has commented many times she wished she had access to any kind of sports program. She's got some good (if you like BS and mind torture) stories, you can have your religion buddy, it's perfect for you and clearly you probably have had it drilled (hope not from behind) into you.
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Go to a Catholic school, OMG that's funny, better like to play with the priest and be able to take a licking from the nun. The pope was just in Canada on another sh*t we Catholics can't apologize enough tour, the most fu*ked up bunch ever.
Catholic schools are great. If you are amongst the few who can afford them or be lucky enough to get a free ride.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:28 PM   #6
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Catholic schools are great. If you are amongst the few who can afford them or be lucky enough to get a free ride.
and if more states had taxes like NH or FL, would that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

how about school
choice? does that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

if your blue states care so much about lifting people out of poverty, why do they oppose school choice? why forced those kids to be stuck in failing schools?
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and if more states had taxes like NH or FL, would that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

how about school
choice? does that increase or decrease the number of people
who could afford them?

if your blue states care so much about lifting people out of poverty, why do they oppose school choice? why forced those kids to be stuck in failing schools?
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How about we try to make our public schools better instead of giving some $ to people who can use that to subsidize non public schools while taking funds away from public schools. Maybe we can go back to the segregation academies that were so common in the south after Brown v BOE.
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How about we try to make our public schools better instead of giving some $ to people who can use that to subsidize non public schools while taking funds away from public schools. Maybe we can go back to the segregation academies that were so common in the south after Brown v BOE.

sure we can try to change/improve public schools, but teachers unions make that practically impossible. Liberals tend to think that “improve” means, spend more money. Catholic schools are concrete proof that student performance isn’t correlated with spending, especially when all the spending goes to teacher benefits that have nothing to do with student performance

Paul, i’m pretty sure i’ve heard liberals describe themselves as pro choice. why not offer the choice? if you’re pro choice, you should
support school choice.

how the heck do you go from school
choice to segregated schools? poor black people
desperately want school choice. why would they ask for crappy segregated schools? are you saying that the darkies are too stupid to know what’s best for their kids?

good lord your are a smug elitist when you want to be.
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sure we can try to change/improve public schools, but teachers unions make that practically impossible. Liberals tend to think that “improve” means, spend more money. Catholic schools are concrete proof that student performance isn’t correlated with spending, especially when all the spending goes to teacher benefits that have nothing to do with student performanceYou don't think the type of people who send their students to Catholic schools are different than the general public? Aren't they more involved in their children's schooling than many who don't send their kids to Catholic schools?

Paul, i’m pretty sure i’ve heard liberals describe themselves as pro choice. why not offer the choice? if you’re pro choice, you should
support school choice. Not even close. Don't conserv. say they believe in personal freedom (until they don't believe that)?

how the heck do you go from school
choice to segregated schools? poor black people
desperately want school choice. why would they ask for crappy segregated schools? are you saying that the darkies LOLare too stupid to know what’s best for their kids? But isn't that what you constantly say about inner city blacks? That they are "too stupid" to understand that the Dems. try to hook them on aid so they will vote for the Dems. ?
Isn't that a racist belief?


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Go fu ck yourself. You can't help but insult people.

Typical cons. What is good for me while ignoring everyone else.
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"100s of K of higher salaries. Look at the median salaries by states"

You're assuming that salary is due to the state.Never claimed that once. I can destroy that, by saying, correctly, that huge numbers of people move from CT to cheaper states and keep their same salaries. The CT state government doesn't set median salary in the state.Never claimed that either

"And If I was a cons. the last thing I would want to discuss is any stats showing how bad the conser. states are."

Hollis and Brookline (in NH) are bad? Franklin TN is bad? The suburbs of Charlotte (like Fort Mill, SC) are bad?Never claimed they were. But as an actuary you should be looking at the credible #s (state wide), not outliers.

WDMSO posted a link that said FL had the hottest real estate price growth in the nation. That cannot happen in a bad state.

Rich people from CT who move to FL, don't turn into swamp hillbillies. The state government doesn't influence that. People decide that for themselves.

"Look at the median salaries."

My salary would stay the same. Other people's salary is their concern.Yes, exactly. Only concerned with yourself.
The cons. way. Better for you so who cares about the rest.


"Taxes are only one aspect."

True. Red states also offer cheaper college, utilities, food, gas, etc. And even if you live in a place with crappy schools (which you don't have to), you can use your tax savings to go to catholic school. Again, you ignore median salary stats. while stating I make things up. LOL

I posted a study from US News and World Report. The public high schools in Franklin TN and Hollis NH were ranked way higher than the public high school in Southington CT where I live. Way, way higher. could be. But again as an actuary you should be looking at the credible #s (state wide), not outliers (cities w/in states).

What I can get in some red states - Same exact salary, lower taxes, better schools.
Point out a few outliers in a set and claim that (or try to) is indicative of the whole set. LOL.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:33 PM   #11
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Point out a few outliers in a set and claim that (or try to) is indicative of the whole set. LOL.
i never ever said all towns in all
red states were great. LOL. i said there are terrible places in red states. So even you will employ the tired liberal tactic of responding to something that i never came close to saying.

here’s what i said.

There are some towns in america that offer a very high quality of life with very low taxes. And from what i can tell, all of them are in red states

They may be outliers, those nice suburbs in red states, but that’s where people are moving.

Paul, if there are any beautiful suburbs in blue states that have super low taxes, can you list some please? or are all such places in red states?

If certain places can offer a high quality of life at an affordable price, isn’t it possible they are doing something right? isnt it possible they’re doing something that maybe we should replicate and expand on?

CT is also an outlier because of fairfield county. doesn’t stop you from saying the whole state is represented by the data from greenwich and westport.
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i never ever said all towns in all
red states were great. LOL. I never said you did.
LOL. So stop lying,
i said there are terrible places in red states. So even you will employ the tired liberal tactic of responding to something that i never came close to saying. And I never claimed that all blue states are better than all red states but I'm not the one who is constantly trying to discuss outliers instead of ignoring the much larger set (states)


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And you continue to try to employ the tired cons. tactic of basically saying "it is better for me" while ignoring everyone else.

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