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09-14-2022, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
can someone explain when it’s ok to make false claims that an election you lost was stolen, and when it’s not ok? some clarity faction would be really helpful. It was ok when Stacey Abrams said it, it’s ok in this case….
there’s zero evidence cheating is why trump lost, zero evidence cheating is why Abrams lost, etc…
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...l-election.amp
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If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes Fox News
I’ll let her speak for herself about the difference
STACEY ABRAMS: Not at all. The difference is very stark. When I did not win my election in 2018, the first thing I said was that I acknowledged the-- I acknowledged the outcome that the new governor was Brian Kemp. I was not the governor. But I did say the system was broken, and Republicans agreed. They passed laws in the very next legislative session fixing many of the issues that we pointed out. They then didn't do more that needed to be done, so we took them to court. And unfortunately, in January of 2021, they decided to retrench because they didn't like the outcome of the next election.
I've never once sued to make myself the governor, not once. But I have sued to make certain that every Georgian has equal access to the polls, that they have the right to vote. And it is deeply concerning to me that a secretary of state doesn't understand the difference between the lies being told by Donald Trump and the truth that Republicans acknowledged in the complaints that we raised about the electoral system in Georgia.
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09-14-2022, 07:33 AM
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Location: Somerset MA
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes Fox News
I’ll let her speak for herself about the difference
STACEY ABRAMS: Not at all. The difference is very stark. When I did not win my election in 2018, the first thing I said was that I acknowledged the-- I acknowledged the outcome that the new governor was Brian Kemp. I was not the governor. But I did say the system was broken, and Republicans agreed. They passed laws in the very next legislative session fixing many of the issues that we pointed out. They then didn't do more that needed to be done, so we took them to court. And unfortunately, in January of 2021, they decided to retrench because they didn't like the outcome of the next election.
I've never once sued to make myself the governor, not once. But I have sued to make certain that every Georgian has equal access to the polls, that they have the right to vote. And it is deeply concerning to me that a secretary of state doesn't understand the difference between the lies being told by Donald Trump and the truth that Republicans acknowledged in the complaints that we raised about the electoral system in Georgia.
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For Jim and Republicans election integrity is about limits on voting not actually expanding voting across the nation. The more people who vote is a threat to them ..
But the response is always the same .. you bring up gerrymandering then they claim well dems do it. But that’s like comparing a heroin addict by saying well you smoke pot
And it’s the same with Abrams they want people to think she did the same thing Trump did.
It’s intellectual Dishonest period
It’s a message targeting the true believers. You know the same people who cheer for this master The Who will throw them to the dogs when they don’t get the results they require. Will move on to the next conspiracy
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09-14-2022, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
For Jim and Republicans election integrity is about limits on voting not actually expanding voting across the nation. The more people who vote is a threat to them ..
But the response is always the same .. you bring up gerrymandering then they claim well dems do it. But that’s like comparing a heroin addict by saying well you smoke pot
And it’s the same with Abrams they want people to think she did the same thing Trump did.
It’s intellectual Dishonest period
It’s a message targeting the true believers. You know the same people who cheer for this master The Who will throw them to the dogs when they don’t get the results they require. Will move on to the next conspiracy
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can you show me what evidence you have, to support your theory that democrats don’t gerrymander when they’re in charge? i know you think it’s true, i’m curious what facts you’re basing that on.
both sides will do just about anything to stay in power. for every single example of gop shenanigans you post, i can post an example of democrats also engaging in shady behavior to win. but you put your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears, because you aren’t interested in truth
Biden told a room full of blacks that republicans want to put them back in chains. That’s exactly what he said. That not a cheap shot to help him win?
or promising a cure for cancer but only if he wins? That’s ok?
The NY state democrats got caught gerrymandering, a state court called it illegal gerrymandering and through out their new lines.
We can both go all day. All day. both sides are gross.
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09-14-2022, 02:26 PM
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Location: Somerset MA
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
can you show me what evidence you have, to support your theory that democrats don’t gerrymander when they’re in charge? i know you think it’s true, i’m curious what facts you’re basing that on.
both sides will do just about anything to stay in power. for every single example of gop shenanigans you post, i can post an example of democrats also engaging in shady behavior to win. but you put your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears, because you aren’t interested in truth
Biden told a room full of blacks that republicans want to put them back in chains. That’s exactly what he said. That not a cheap shot to help him win?
or promising a cure for cancer but only if he wins? That’s ok?
The NY state democrats got caught gerrymandering, a state court called it illegal gerrymandering and through out their new lines.
We can both go all day. All day. both sides are gross.
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You just don’t get it do you Jim only in your twisted view . All behaviors are equal .
You refuse to see any topic in Degrees .
Republicans have more criminal indictments under the last three GOP presidents ! dwarfing those under the three Democrats.
We compared 28 years each of Democratic and Republican administrations, 1961-2016, five Presidents from each party. During that period Republicans scored eighteen times more individuals and entities indicted, thirty-eight times more convictions, and thirty-nine times more individuals who had prison time.
See not everything’s equal
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