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Old 11-02-2023, 02:29 PM   #31
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[QUOTE=rphud;1243034]Fiddling with the slot is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as they say.


What a great saying!!!!

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Old 11-02-2023, 04:23 PM   #32
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Have they EVER gotten it right?
I thought that they got it right after the moratorium, with 1@36". But then one questionable YOY index gave them all the excuse they needed to open the floodgates again. Then they started pushing "maximum sustainable yield" and right then and there, I knew it was doomed to fail. Maximum sustainable yield means managing the fishery right on the edge, how many fish can we allow to be killed each year, without any means of accurately determining total recreational harvest and release mortality. Instead of data they relied on "best guesses".

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Old 11-02-2023, 05:05 PM   #33
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Can't use the old numbers/targets. They need way more mating fish to produce decent YOY numbers going forward.
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Old 11-02-2023, 09:00 PM   #34
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I thought that they got it right after the moratorium, with 1@36". But then one questionable YOY index gave them all the excuse they needed to open the floodgates again. Then they started pushing "maximum sustainable yield" and right then and there, I knew it was doomed to fail. Maximum sustainable yield means managing the fishery right on the edge, how many fish can we allow to be killed each year, without any means of accurately determining total recreational harvest and release mortality. Instead of data they relied on "best guesses".
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