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02-15-2025, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Welcome back.
Thanks. Didn't really intend to get much involved and am amused at the steadfast opinions. Nothing changed. I guess that's some form of stability. Which, one might guess, is a good thing.
Too bad that’s not what they’re doing.
Yeah, it fundamentally, or incidentally, is what they're doing. It's no secret that I contend that most of the federal regulatory agencies are unconstitutionally granted plenary power to regulate the citizens of this country.
Here’s a shout out to even more rank stupidity
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...ure-rcna192345
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No doubt mistakes will be made. And corrected. And it is not only unconstitutional to give plenary power to these agencies, it is fascistic.
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02-15-2025, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by detbuch
No doubt mistakes will be made. And corrected. And it is not only unconstitutional to give plenary power to these agencies, it is fascistic.
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I wondered when someone not lockstepp with the resistance would voice some reason and a lot more patience with foolishness. Then again I was on the hockey team and skipped the debate club.
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02-15-2025, 03:41 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Good to see you back.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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02-15-2025, 03:50 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,617
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If Only.
Warren Buffett, "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.
I am asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
*Congressional Reform Act of 2019*
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 7/1/19. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term's), then go home and back to work.
If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.
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02-15-2025, 06:10 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
If Only.
Warren Buffett, "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.
I am asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
*Congressional Reform Act of 2019*
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 7/1/19. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term's), then go home and back to work.
If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.
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That would work.
I would propose term limits for house, senate and courts.
No separate benefit system for elected officials.
That emoluments be enforced.
That a corporation is not a person.
A limit of 8x minimum wage for political contributions.
Sunset provisions in all legislation.
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02-16-2025, 07:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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Originally Posted by detbuch
No doubt mistakes will be made. And corrected. And it is not only unconstitutional to give plenary power to these agencies, it is fascistic.
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Ok Elon, maybe you can make another fake twitter poll so the hackers and bots and will proclaim their verdict.
250 years of unconstitutional actions have led to a situation so dire that it can only rightly be corrected through radical, mostly illegal and insanely irresponsible unconstitutional action. WTF?
For a time I actually thought Reagan Republicans would make a come back. Remember the shining city on a hill inclusive of everyone to be lifted up? Hell, old Ronny was the first DEI president!
“Accidentally” firing the people who keep our nuclear arsenal safe isn’t an “oops” it’s just another example of how they couldn’t give a crap about average Americans. Just like cutting the CDC while we’re on the brink of another outbreak or illegally eliminating USAid which keeps our troops out of harms way is equally illegal and dumb.
But no, let’s weaken our alliances, withdraw our influence and coddle authoritarians and dictators. While we’re at it flaunt the rule of law, suppress the media and eliminate government oversight.
This is all very “Constitutional” and by your reading just what the Founding Fathers envisioned, except it’s what they hoped would never come to be.
Give me a break.
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02-17-2025, 11:24 AM
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#7
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,725
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[QUOTE=spence;1248057
eliminating USAid which keeps our troops out of harms way is equally illegal and dumb.
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More on the the good work of USAid:
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02-17-2025, 11:43 AM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,371
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Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:
$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.
What no links I am shocked. Half of what you posted is all BS.
Still where’s the fraud. ? When is Musk. Going to show us what Trumps. USAID funded and spent. During his 1st Term?
But we know you’ll never ask to see that.. it’s not convenient….
Earlier this month the Trump administration described a separate grant of $70,000 (£56,000) for a "DEI musical" in Ireland as "crap" that US taxpayer money was "wasted on
Now an examination of spending records shows that in October 2021 $24,000 (£19,000) of US taxpayer's money was given to the Institute of Art, Design and Technology (IADT) in Dun Laoghaire, Co Dublin, to "nurture and encourage equality, inclusion and diversity in storytelling, by facilitating self-generated narratives from diverse community groups through the medium of film".
Funny how reality never match’s with musk and trumps lies
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/us-ta...oject-13309628..
FYI just because Trump considers it waste and abuse. Because he doesn’t like it.
Doesn’t make it so. The funding was passed by congress and signed by the POTUS
Making it a law. The ones republicans find so pesky .. when they get in their way
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02-17-2025, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
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Originally Posted by detbuch
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To funny you support a treasonous president Trump. With witness that conveniently try to suggest. Everything was a conspiracy against Trump
It’s a pattern with you and others. The election was rigged Covid was a hoax. USAID tried to get Trump. It’s a hoax. The list is endless
Even when we had the Hero General of Trump. Said this
Former Defense Secretary James Mattis once said, “If you don't fund the State Department fully, then I need to buy more ammunition ultimately.” ...
He became a RINO. Hero to zero…. Because he refused to bend the knee. …
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02-17-2025, 02:27 PM
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#10
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
To funny you support a treasonous president Trump. With witness that conveniently try to suggest. Everything was a conspiracy against Trump
This is disinformation.
It’s a pattern with you and others. The election was rigged Covid was a hoax. USAID tried to get Trump. It’s a hoax. The list is endless
This is misinformation.
Even when we had the Hero General of Trump. Said this
Former Defense Secretary James Mattis once said, “If you don't fund the State Department fully, then I need to buy more ammunition ultimately.” ...
He became a RINO. Hero to zero…. Because he refused to bend the knee. …
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This is malinformation
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02-17-2025, 11:56 AM
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,371
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Originally Posted by detbuch
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questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source
Wow that’s your evidence…. Talk about disinformation
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02-17-2025, 02:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,725
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Originally Posted by wdmso
questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source
Good to know.
Wow that’s your evidence…. Talk about disinformation
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Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?
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