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Old 02-16-2025, 09:48 PM   #1
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250 years of unconstitutional actions have led to a situation so dire that it can only rightly be corrected through radical, mostly illegal and insanely irresponsible unconstitutional action. WTF?

The unconstitutional federal regulatory agencies with plenary power didn't become an issue until the FDR Administration, so it has been more like 100 years, not 250.

Our past eight years of prosecuting and impeaching Trump, and investigating him for conspiring with an enemy should assure us that he will not be allowed to escape any "mostly illegal" activities. So rest easy on that.


For a time I actually thought Reagan Republicans would make a come back. Remember the shining city on a hill inclusive of everyone to be lifted up? Hell, old Ronny was the first DEI president!

Everyone is still included in the opportunity to lift themselves up. But even Reagan didn't believe that they should be lifted up simply by government decrees and mandates, but by true merit and self discipline.

“Accidentally” firing the people who keep our nuclear arsenal safe isn’t an “oops”

Why not?

it’s just another example of how they couldn’t give a crap about average Americans.

What does it have to do with "Average" Americans?

Just like cutting the CDC while we’re on the brink of another outbreak

I'm sure RFK jr will do a good job on all that.
Hope he fixes the incompetence that org. displayed during the Covid crisis.


or illegally eliminating USAid which keeps our troops out of harms way is equally illegal and dumb.

So we didn't keep our troops out of harms way before USAid existed? Why would we depend on USAid to keep our troops out of harms way? How about the Defense Department or State Department or the Pentagon doing their jobs re that. Or how about not putting the troops in harms way unless they have the sufficient ordnance, backup and communication capabilities to handle it.
Why depend on an unconstitutional agency that does all manner of other things, including:

Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:

$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.


But no, let’s weaken our alliances, withdraw our influence and coddle authoritarians and dictators.

Trump's rhetoric and actions (influence) have caused our alliances to strengthen themselves militarily (or realize that they
have to do so) which actually overall will strengthen the total alliance. And which does not coddle any enemies. In the meantime, diplomatic relations with adversaries, backed by a stronger EU, is wisdom, not coddling. I would love to see a greater western economic pact which included Russia in its sphere of alliances.


While we’re at it flaunt the rule of law, suppress the media and eliminate government oversight.

See above for the flaunting rule of law nonsense.

The media doesn't seem to be "suppressed" except by its own realization that it has lost customers due to its own overly slanted "news" and opinion re Trump the past eight years. And that it needs to make some changes in order to continue existing.


This is all very “Constitutional” and by your reading just what the Founding Fathers envisioned, except it’s what they hoped would never come to be.

It is very Constitutional to change the nature of or eliminate federal regulatory agencies. If they must exist, they should be advisory, investigative, or procedural in nature, and should not have power to legislate in any way, and certainly should not have any judiciary power in matters of disputes with the public.

And yes, the Founding Fathers did hope such administrative agencies with plenary power that we now have "would never come to be."
As they noted in their Declaration of Independence regarding the Central power of the King whom they fervently were revolting against:
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

They would have seen this centralized administrative state with its multitude of new agencies and their swarms of officers to be the kind of tyranny they would fight to be free from.


Give me a break.
I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.

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Old 02-17-2025, 01:56 AM   #2
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I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.
Waste of time debating with TDS patients.
But go ahead and entertain them.......they are desperate and need to vent their frustration over the crushing loss they have suffered.
Grieving lost souls. Thats why this thread was started.....for them.
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Old 02-18-2025, 06:12 AM   #3
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I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.
Oh look, he can cut and paste misinformation. Most of those examples of “rampant waste” are either wrong or or simply policy decisions spun out of context. Nothing bad about investing to cultivate stability and western values. It makes the world safer and ensures American leadership.

Edit…it “did.”

If you really want to eliminate waste start with the hundreds of billions spent to service the debt on tax cuts for the top 1%.
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