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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy.

I’ll wait.

This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This country's move to Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

^^^^^this guy^^^^^
I'm bright enough to let him debate....he's mopping the floor......with common sense.
My approach has been less sensitive to.... feelings.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

^^^^^this guy^^^^^
I'm bright enough to let him debate....he's mopping the floor......with common sense.
My approach has been less sensitive to.... feelings.

You two aren’t too bright are you?

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected Administrative state.

By using an unelected. musk. And questionable legal theories.

Even though republicans control the white house senate and the house..

And yet somehow, Republicans can’t seem to provide legislative ideas or solutions they resorted to the use of executive orders, which they all screamed were authoritarian and illegal and unconstitutional

Funny seeing people who claimed the they love the constitution but will fully ignore it when it’s convenient.


Hypocritical doesn’t even describe you 2. I’m going with delusional.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You two aren’t too bright are you?

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected Administrative state.

By using an unelected. musk. And questionable legal theories.

Even though republicans control the white house senate and the house..

And yet somehow, Republicans can’t seem to provide legislative ideas or solutions they resorted to the use of executive orders, which they all screamed were authoritarian and illegal and unconstitutional

Funny seeing people who claimed the they love the constitution but will fully ignore it when it’s convenient.


Hypocritical doesn’t even describe you 2. I’m going with delusional.
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When did you realize biden had dementia? You haven't answered.....my expectations are very low in your case

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

When did you realize biden had dementia? You haven't answered.....my expectations are very low in your case

You still think the guys got dementia? The guy who passed pass legislation in four years then Trump did.. and played republicans at every turn…. and now you’re a medical expert. Let media’s Fox told you and you believe it.

And for the record I never wanted Biden to Run. For a 2nd Term

And he was 82 years old. And walked like one. You and others need to make up your mind

Was he a Napoleon of crime? Ya know the crimes you claim existed but never found. Or a demented old fool. You and republicans just changed his diagnosis to fit your lie



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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

The Progressive movement was in response to the rise of corporations.
John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company came to control 90-95% of oil refineries in the U.S.
Journalists, such as Ida Tarbell, exposed the nefarious methods used by John D. Rockefeller to push out honest competitors.
The government responded to harmful corporate behavior through the passage of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which sought to limit large corporations’ ability to fix prices and exclude competition. Under the administration of Theodore Roosevelt, the Sherman Act was vigorously enforced through over 40 antitrust suits.

Never mind that since the 1970s almost all of our small businesses have been decimated by corporate agglomeration to the detriment of our middle class, today we have Amazon, Tesla, Microsoft, Google….
And Musk has effective control of our government while FFOTUS with his obedient MAGA followers in Congress think they can control him.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by spence

Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

Actually today’s population is roughly 3X what it was in 1910 so we could make it a dozen rather than 4.
Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, Elon Musk, Steve Ballmer, Larry Ellison, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Jim Walton, Rob Walton, and Jensen Huang are worth 2 Trillion and that’s a greater concentration of wealth than at any time in American history.
In the past fifty years these same people have gained control of retail, housing, healthcare, media, heavy industry and manufacturing which they offshored.
Left alone they will set it up so our children will be born in a hospital they control, attend a for profit school, rent a home, get information from an entity they control, get food from a corporate farm they control, bank with an entity controlled by them but at least it won’t be socialism.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

What's that got to do with your question--"I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy"?