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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No, aggressive censorship is not particularly a Nazi action. It is a common adversarial method used by those influential enough to use it. As witnessed by the revelations of the twitter files.

Führerprinzip
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What’s up with the POTUS a press secretary.

Leavitt is married to Nicholas Riccio, a real estate developer 32 years her senior.

And here I thought the Republicans were a party of family values and did not like pedophiles or predators.. I guess I was wrong

And still are.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Führerprinzip
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Seig Hile

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Is this something that only Nazis did?

Wow that’s an amazing argument. To excuse Trump and his administrations behavior….

Why not say what about the Romans. Or how about Genghis Khan. . Pol pot Fidel Castro. Or his Besty, Vladimir Putin….

Well, now you’re a apologist? And a constitutional expert, who would have guessed

Or the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . .
You're proving my point. If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things, and more, there must be a purpose to singling out Nazi. The actions are not specifically or particularly Nazi. As well, he has acted in ways opposite to the Nazis.

There is obviously an agenda, not truth or reality, to calling him a Nazi.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Seig Hile

Good luck.....these Hitler guys are complete jackasses. Reason doesn't work. I do appreciate your efforts...but.they are sick people and confronting them with common sense seems to worsen their symptoms.
TDS or SHS are one in the same.

[Pete F.]

"While Trump retains the ceremonial position of Head of State, signing executive orders with flourish and basking in symbolic pageantry, Musk has effectively become Head of Government, wielding unprecedented control over federal agencies."
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"While Trump retains the ceremonial position of Head of State, signing executive orders with flourish and basking in symbolic pageantry, Musk has effectively become Head of Government, wielding unprecedented control over federal agencies."
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More SHS.

[Pete F.]

No, FElon hasn’t found fraud at Social Security
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ocial-security
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[Pete F.]

New polls in Germany show support for Germany's far-right AfD party (the New Not-sees) actually dropped following U.S. Vice President Mr. Hillbilly Elegy's meeting with their leader. As one internet wag observed, "Imagine being so unpopular that you make Nazis less appealing."
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[Pete F.]

Heyyyyy Wisconsin MAGA dairy farmers...how's that USAID cheese contract y'all used to bank on doing?

What? The contracts are gone and your dairy farms are going to go under? Thank DOGE!
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[wdmso]

Senators have in recent days made the case to Cabinet secretaries and other Trump officials to let money flow back into their states. They are trying to finagle exceptions to President Donald Trump’s sweeping executive orders or cuts made by billionaire Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service that freeze hundreds of billions of dollars, including money for farmers and infrastructure projects. That push comes as the administration has also sought to fire a wide swath of federal employees — some of whom live in red states.


Funny how that works

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Or the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . .
You're proving my point. If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things, and more, there must be a purpose to singling out Nazi. The actions are not specifically or particularly Nazi. As well, he has acted in ways opposite to the Nazis.

There is obviously an agenda, not truth or reality, to calling him a Nazi.

So presenting facts and pointing out the obvious similarities is having an agenda?

You seem unable or un willing to see Trumps actions and deeds in their entirety.. there’s no agenda I said the same thing in 2016


If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things.

the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . . D

comment like above is why I find your argument lazy. Maybe I should have used lackadaisical …. It’s whatabouism at its finest.

You seem to still think .. the references to Nazi like . Isn’t based on Trumps actually actions or his supporters behavior..

And Trump won the election. No questions…. But what I can’t understand is all his rabid supporters who claim to love the constitution and the rules of law . Are cheering his anti democratic activities

He hold all the levers of power and yet there is no legislative action on the table to fix or change things others than tax cuts via the constitution that you and others claim to love? And so far have been unable to articulate why supporting the dear leader with out question… is constitutional.

So in a nutshell if Trump and Musk didn’t behave like nazis fascist misogynistic authoritarians. They possibly wouldn’t be referred to as Nazi fascist misogynistic authoritarian….

[wdmso]

Echoing Kremlin, Trump blames Zelensky for war, angering Ukrainians
President Donald Trump said Volodymyr Zelensky had low approval ratings and elections were needed, statements also made in the past week by the Kremlin and disputed by Ukrainians.


Today I heard, ‘Oh, we weren’t invited,’” Trump said late Tuesday, referring to Ukraine’s complaints about being excluded from the meetings and fears that Washington and Moscow will reach a settlement to impose on Ukraine.
“Well, you’ve been there for three years, you should have ended it,” Trump said. “You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.”

Exact quote from our dear leader

So Trump thinks Russian elections are free and fair. But he’s no Russian puppet ya ok


But he’s not any of those mean references people have made against him.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No, aggressive censorship is not particularly a Nazi action. It is a common adversarial method used by those influential enough to use it. As witnessed by the revelations of the twitter files.

Ahh, the Twitter files, we’ll get back to those shortly

The Department of Government Efficiency, the federal cost-cutting initiative championed by Elon Musk, published on Monday a list of government contracts it has canceled, together amounting to about $16 billion in savings itemized on a new “wall of receipts” on its website.

Almost half of those line-item savings could be attributed to a single $8 billion contract for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. But it appears that the DOGE list vastly overstated the actual intended value of that contract. A closer scrutiny of a federal database shows that a recent version of the contract was for $8 million, not $8 billion. A larger total savings number published on the site, $55 billion, lacked specific documentation.
A bunch of incompetent work, by people operating far beyond their capabilities.

This is absolutely the Twitter Files for the government.

Elon wanted to humiliate his enemies. But what Twitter Files showed was generally careful governance, some bad calls, & stuff taken out of context by “journalists” who didn’t understand the basics. Same here.

It’s the same methodology boosted by the same people.

Crawl through a bunch of stuff, find something that seems outrageous, make an online mob lose their minds. Destroy work, upend lives. Get it totally wrong, move to the next thing.

This time it’s not online governance, it’s actual government.
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[spence]

I’m some respects Trump is worse than Hitler. Hitler and his cabal figured out how to seize absolute power largely within an existing legal structure. Trump hasn’t, and our system has many more safeguards so he’s testing the limits of authority to circumvent the law.

Congress has already surrendered, if the courts don’t stand up we may never see the mid-terms.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by spence

I’m some respects Trump is worse than Hitler. Hitler and his cabal figured out how to seize absolute power largely within an existing legal structure. Trump hasn’t, and our system has many more safeguards so he’s testing the limits of authority to circumvent the law.

Congress has already surrendered, if the courts don’t stand up we may never see the mid-terms.

There’s a good thread on Bluesky about this by Walter Olsen
“If I'm reading the White House's fact sheet correctly -- the text of the actual EO doesn't seem to have been posted yet -- today's new executive order is momentous but not because it aggresses against the role of the courts or touches off any sort of constitutional crisis. /1”
https://bsky.app/profile/walterolson.../3liimffwsas26
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Good luck.....these Hitler guys are complete jackasses. Reason doesn't work. I do appreciate your efforts...but.they are sick people and confronting them with common sense seems to worsen their symptoms.
TDS or SHS are one in the same.

Your right. I gave it a shot. Not worth it. I think it best if we just STFU and let them totally own the forum with their unopposed rants. I think, after a while, most members would begin to find it boring, and then tune out as the total circle jerk drones on and on. I'm out.

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your right. I gave it a shot. Not worth it. I think it best if we just STFU and let them totally own the forum with their unopposed rants. I think, after a while, most members would begin to find it boring, and then tune out as the total circle jerk drones on and on. I'm out.

Awe crap. It was great how you mopped the floor while you were here. Peace

[Pete F.]

Now they’re attacking Dolly Parton
A teacher in Warrick County is speaking out after Indiana Governor Mike Braun removed Dolly Parton’s “Imagination Library” from the state’s budget.

Imagination Library is a book-gifting program for children under 5 in hopes of fostering early literacy.

With the pending removal from the state’s budget, the program will have no funding to get books into the hands of families.
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[Pete F.]

Here we go

The Trump administration has just told a federal judge in a court filing that it will not comply with the court's order to resume funding for USAID and State Department foreign assistance.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Awe crap. It was great how you mopped the floor while you were here. Peace

own the forum with their unopposed rants.

thats funny .. i'll be impressed when you to actually provide some facts to back up. or counter Actual news stories and Actions and words of the sitting POTUS.

until then. keep thinking your comments are thoughtful positions

here's another factoid. or i guess another Rant.

its sad Zelinsky need to correct our President with actual facts

Zelensky has chosen to point out publicly where Trump is wrong (and Putin). It’s not 4% support for his presidency, for example, it’s 57%. Not $500bn in US support to Ukraine, more like $100bn.

Donald Trump is “living in a disinformation space”, Zelensky says, but he even couches that in talk of respect and gratitude. It can’t be easy to watch your closest ally suddenly switch position on all that is important to you.

US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend,
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjev24184vjo

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by wdmso

own the forum with their unopposed rants.

thats funny .. i'll be impressed when you to actually provide some facts to back up. or counter Actual news stories and Actions and words of the sitting POTUS.

until then. keep thinking your comments are thoughtful positions

here's another factoid. or i guess another Rant.

its sad Zelinsky need to correct our President with actual facts

Zelensky has chosen to point out publicly where Trump is wrong (and Putin). It’s not 4% support for his presidency, for example, it’s 57%. Not $500bn in US support to Ukraine, more like $100bn.

Donald Trump is “living in a disinformation space”, Zelensky says, but he even couches that in talk of respect and gratitude. It can’t be easy to watch your closest ally suddenly switch position on all that is important to you.

US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend,
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjev24184vjo

Democrats lost and now they are crushed ....bout sums it up.

[Pete F.]

Congratulations MAGA
FFOTUS repeats verbatim Russian propaganda

You’re now on Putin’s side

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn't be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and "TRUMP," will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn't Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us - We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is "MISSING." He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden "like a fiddle." A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only "TRUMP," and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the "gravy train" going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died - And so it continues.....
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The world will never forget that the USA was in Budapest
The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with U.S. Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance, prohibited Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.

At this point, Zelenskyy should not participate in any peace talks which involve the Trump administration.

He should demand that Europe lead the way-and guarantee Ukraine’s safety if a deal can be reached.

Clearly, the US is spouting Putin’s talking points and cannot be trusted to negotiate honestly.

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[Pete F.]

Last night, Trump promised he wouldn't touch Medicaid.

This morning, Trump endorsed the House Republican plan to slash Medicaid.

It's smoke and mirrors: Trump and Republicans are plotting to take away health care from millions of people to pay for tax breaks for billionaires.
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[wdmso]

I find it unusual that their are some so Upset with the references to Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism.. as if they are just assigned without Thought or research or a basic criteria...

So to keep the example easy lets say. we identified. 25 examples in Trumps Administration or direct quotes .. that lead to the determination

We feel they fit falling in Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism or all of the above.

Our Republican and conservative members. in an attempt to discredit our observations. want to suggest. via whataboutism that others should also be considered Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism..

And their Logic is. lets take Bill Clinton. they suggest that if Bill had example 1 out of 25 of our examples in his administration.. why isn't he considered aNaziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism

Or how about Brits, maybe they have 1 , 4 and 8 out of 25. or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln

They want us to accept it's all the same! there are no degrees of behavior if you have any 1 of our 25 examples you are the same

its like suggesting water is no less dangerous when boiled because it's still water .. even when a chart suggest otherwise.

its disingenuous. all to defend the Man. as if everything he has done to Date would be defended by them with the same commitment and zeal if Harris was elected and did the exact same thing. with Musk sitting by her side. or Soros ... but I do know. I wouldn't be giving Harris a pass like republicans are giving Musk and Trump

[wdmso]

yep MAG you weren't lied to.

[Rmarsh]

Awe ...
See what you've done....chased away the only intellectual and now your stuck with me
el Blanco diablo

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Awe ...
See what you've done....chased away the only intellectual and now your stuck with me
el Blanco diablo

In a post Wednesday on Truth Social, Trump went on to describe Zelensky as “a Dictator without Elections,” who was soon going to lose his country. The comment was immediately the top of the news in Russian media outlets.

keep cheering on your cowardly man crush.

[Rmarsh]

Nah ...i think he is unattractive...but he took a bullet in the ear and came up defiant....that's more of a man than any of us....yeah...were you disappointed?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You’re now on Putin’s side

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I think he has a man's crush on Putin bc Trump is hoping at the next G8 meeting he'll have Putin invited and then not everyone will be in a group looking over at Trump standing alone and laughing at him.