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02-21-2025, 07:28 AM
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Keep it coming Pete....without you this thread will shrivel up and die.
Kinda like todays democratic agenda.
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Todays MAGA agenda
In an R+18 district: Speaking at a business luncheon yesterday in Westerville, Ohio, GOP Rep. Troy Balderson "described President Donald Trump's flurry of executive orders as 'getting out of control' .... [and] expressed some pushback to the idea of sole decision-making power lying with Trump and billionaire advisor Elon Musk," the Columbus Dispatch's Samantha Hendrickson reports. "Congress has to decide whether or not the Department of Education goes away,' Balderson asserted. 'Not the president, not Elon Musk."
In deep-red Georgia: Last night in Roswell, Georgia, an overflow crowd packed into a town hall forum for GOP Rep. Rich McCormick, barraging him with pointed questions and accusatory comments about DOGE's cuts. His staff "seemed caught off guard by the massive crowd of hundreds that gathered," reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Greg Bluestein. (This is a district Trump carried by 22 points just three months ago.
I see FFOTUS’ magic worked for hockey as well as football…ETTD
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02-21-2025, 07:29 AM
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Steve Bannon, after calling for Trump to be President for life, did a Nazi salute on stage at CPAC.
Nazism has officially taken over the GOP.
The few remaining conservatives have a choice: either leave the party and obstruct it—or choose to be complicit.
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And as on cue. Marsh is here to avoid the topics ..and still suggest that some how all the countries issues are democrats fault.. as if Trump wasn’t in office 4 years ago.
But he’ll support trumps attempt at another 4 years. But let’s get past year 1 st
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02-21-2025, 07:35 AM
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You idiots claiming it was just a scratch or menstrual fluid have #^&#^&#^&#^& for brains. The man was one freieking inch from death and you are minimizing it. He is in more danger than you ever were. The topic is TDS and SHS and on cue youre right behind me.....youll have to wait until GS taps out big guy
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02-21-2025, 07:40 AM
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Might not be what you want but here’s what MAGA Marsh got for us
Watching Elon Musk and his band of young acolytes slash their way through the federal government, many observers have struggled to understand how such a small group could do so much damage in so little time.
The mistake is trying to situate Musk solely in the context of politics. He isn’t approaching this challenge like a budget-minded official. He’s approaching it like an engineer, exploiting vulnerabilities that are built into the nation’s technological systems, operating as what cybersecurity experts call an insider threat. We were warned about these vulnerabilities but no one listened, and the consequences — for the United States and the world — will be vast.
Insider threats have been around for a long time: the C.I.A. mole toiling quietly in the Soviet government office, the Boeing engineer who secretly ferried information about the space shuttle program to the Chinese government. Modern digital systems supercharge that threat by consolidating more and more information from many distinct realms.
That approach has delivered obvious benefits in terms of convenience, access, integration and speed. When the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission described how segmentation of information among agencies had stymied intelligence efforts, the solution was to create integrated systems for collecting and sharing huge troves of data.
Running integrated digital systems, however, requires endowing a few individuals with sweeping privileges. They’re the sysadmins, the systems administrators who manage the entire network, including its security. They have root privileges, the jargon for highest level of access. They get access to the God View, the name Uber gave its internal tool that allowed an outrageously large number of employees to see anyone’s Uber rides.
That’s why when Edward Snowden was at the N.S.A. he was able to take so much information, including extensive databases that had little to do with the particular operations he wanted to expose as a whistle-blower. He was a sysadmin, the guy standing watch against users who abuse their access, but who has broad leeway to exercise his own.
All this has merged with and amplified another kind of insider threat brewing for decades on the political side: the expansion of unchecked executive power.
“With money we will get men, said Caesar, and with men we will get money,” Thomas Jefferson once wrote, to warn against the ways that what he called elective despotism can become a self-feeding cycle. He had feared that an elected authoritarian would not just pulverize the institutions meant to limit his power, but take them over to wield as weapons, thus further entrenching himself.
Even Jefferson couldn’t have imagined a future in which the arsenal being deployed included centralized databases with comprehensive records on every citizen’s employment, finances, taxes and for some, even health status.
After a judge blocked a Trump executive order, Elon Musk shared a post with his more than 200 million followers on X that included the judge’s daughter’s name, photo and job, allegedly at the Department of Education. There’s no indication he got access to government databases about her, but how would we know if he had, or if he does so in the future?
Feel free to read the rest of the story
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/o...onal-data.html
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02-21-2025, 07:49 AM
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Might not be what you want but here’s what MAGA Marsh got for us
Watching Elon Musk and his band of young acolytes slash their way through the federal government, many observers have struggled to understand how such a small group could do so much damage in so little time.
The mistake is trying to situate Musk solely in the context of politics. He isn’t approaching this challenge like a budget-minded official. He’s approaching it like an engineer, exploiting vulnerabilities that are built into the nation’s technological systems, operating as what cybersecurity experts call an insider threat. We were warned about these vulnerabilities but no one listened, and the consequences — for the United States and the world — will be vast.
Insider threats have been around for a long time: the C.I.A. mole toiling quietly in the Soviet government office, the Boeing engineer who secretly ferried information about the space shuttle program to the Chinese government. Modern digital systems supercharge that threat by consolidating more and more information from many distinct realms.
That approach has delivered obvious benefits in terms of convenience, access, integration and speed. When the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission described how segmentation of information among agencies had stymied intelligence efforts, the solution was to create integrated systems for collecting and sharing huge troves of data.
Running integrated digital systems, however, requires endowing a few individuals with sweeping privileges. They’re the sysadmins, the systems administrators who manage the entire network, including its security. They have root privileges, the jargon for highest level of access. They get access to the God View, the name Uber gave its internal tool that allowed an outrageously large number of employees to see anyone’s Uber rides.
That’s why when Edward Snowden was at the N.S.A. he was able to take so much information, including extensive databases that had little to do with the particular operations he wanted to expose as a whistle-blower. He was a sysadmin, the guy standing watch against users who abuse their access, but who has broad leeway to exercise his own.
All this has merged with and amplified another kind of insider threat brewing for decades on the political side: the expansion of unchecked executive power.
“With money we will get men, said Caesar, and with men we will get money,” Thomas Jefferson once wrote, to warn against the ways that what he called elective despotism can become a self-feeding cycle. He had feared that an elected authoritarian would not just pulverize the institutions meant to limit his power, but take them over to wield as weapons, thus further entrenching himself.
Even Jefferson couldn’t have imagined a future in which the arsenal being deployed included centralized databases with comprehensive records on every citizen’s employment, finances, taxes and for some, even health status.
After a judge blocked a Trump executive order, Elon Musk shared a post with his more than 200 million followers on X that included the judge’s daughter’s name, photo and job, allegedly at the Department of Education. There’s no indication he got access to government databases about her, but how would we know if he had, or if he does so in the future?
Feel free to read the rest of the story
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/o...onal-data.html
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Let it all out Pete its like vomiting and diarrhea you have to get it done
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02-21-2025, 09:45 AM
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Where did the party of Reagan go?
The United States is opposing calling Russia the aggressor in the war with Ukraine in a Group of 7 statement being drafted to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion, four senior officials from countries involved said on Thursday.
The American objections to the statement come after President Trump earlier this week blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which in fact began with Russia’s attack on Ukraine.
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02-21-2025, 09:46 AM
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You idiots claiming it was just a scratch or menstrual fluid have #^&#^&#^&#^& for brains. The man was one freieking inch from death and you are minimizing it. He is in more danger than you ever were. The topic is TDS and SHS and on cue youre right behind me.....youll have to wait until GS taps out big guy
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He is in more danger than you ever were..
When your next Cult meeting?
Minimizing. That’s comical coming from you . A fan boy. Who has maximized a .75 of an inch nick on his ear that no one saw. And no more blood than cutting himself shaving
I bet you own one of those I stand with Trump ear tampons ..
Maybe you need to ask yourself why Trump would be targeted? Since Regan.
By. Someone registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and remained registered as a Republican until his death.
Damn those pesky facts
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02-21-2025, 10:32 AM
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Let it all out Pete its like vomiting and diarrhea you have to get it done
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Death for the king
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02-21-2025, 10:38 AM
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Where did the party of Reagan go?
The United States is opposing calling Russia the aggressor in the war with Ukraine in a Group of 7 statement being drafted to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion, four senior officials from countries involved said on Thursday.
The American objections to the statement come after President Trump earlier this week blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which in fact began with Russia’s attack on Ukraine.
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Have you ever heard FFOTUS call Putin anything other than smart or friend?
The fact that Ukraine gave up it’s nukes in the early 90s and who guaranteed its sovereignty seems to have been forgotten.
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02-21-2025, 11:12 AM
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U.S. consumer sentiment plunges—down 10% from January over tariff and inflation fears.
Most people I know think the economy is cooked thanks to Trump’s policies—designed to help the rich and screw working folks.
It seems almost unavoidable at this point that we are headed for a deep, deep recession. Just based on 200K+ federal firings & pullback of contracts, the March employment report (to be released April 4) seems certain to show bigger job losses than any month ever outside of a few in 2008-9 and 2020.
Add on to that enormous private market uncertainty - how could you hire in these conditions? - and this is going to be very, very bad.
To be clear: Even greater damage will be done by the loss of federal government productivity. The workers who are losing their jobs were worth more than they were being paid! We are all poorer when roads, planes, and food are unsafe, when parks are closed, etc.
This will show up in the March report, to be released on April 4. Why not in the February report, coming out March 7? Because that asks for employment in the pay period including Feb. 12, and the firings were nearly all too late for that.
But, I suspect the March unemployment report will actually be rosy.
The Felon’s regime's Five Year Plan will have achieved HUGE success in reducing unemployment to 1% and inflation to 0% by executive order.
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02-21-2025, 11:58 AM
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He is in more danger than you ever were..
When your next Cult meeting?
Minimizing. That’s comical coming from you . A fan boy. Who has maximized a .75 of an inch nick on his ear that no one saw. And no more blood than cutting himself shaving
I bet you own one of those I stand with Trump ear tampons ..
Maybe you need to ask yourself why Trump would be targeted? Since Regan.
By. Someone registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and remained registered as a Republican until his death.
Damn those pesky facts
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You sound weird talking about tampons periods and menstrating.....really weird
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02-21-2025, 01:38 PM
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Trump: "Eggs. I'm hearing so much about eggs. You'll figure it out. You gotta figure something out fast. And we inherited all the problems ... the big things, really, we can blame other people for."
Just imagine if he had inherited Covid
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02-21-2025, 03:11 PM
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You sound weird talking about tampons periods and menstrating.....really weird
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The US president also said he doesn't think it's "important" that Zelensky is present at peace talks with Russia, adding he "doesn't have any cards"
Only weird for those who don’t think Trumps a pussy.
This represents Trump in the oval office when Z. told him he was repeating Russian propaganda talking points
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02-21-2025, 03:16 PM
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Trump: "Eggs. I'm hearing so much about eggs. You'll figure it out. You gotta figure something out fast. And we inherited all the problems ... the big things, really, we can blame other people for."
Just imagine if he had inherited Covid
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Canada and Mexico vaccinate their chicken. So I am guessing the reason why they’re not vaccinated in the US is cost…. And how’s that working out. Many egg producers are refusing to re stock egg layers until. The bird flu is under control or the government allows vaccines..
This is info Fox viewers will never see or their dishonest representatives will tell them
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02-21-2025, 03:22 PM
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The US president also said he doesn't think it's "important" that Zelensky is present at peace talks with Russia, adding he "doesn't have any cards"
Only weird for those who don’t think Trumps not a pussy.
This represents Trump in the oval office when Z. told him he was repeating Russian propaganda talking points
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The Europeans who are not involved with American politics but who honored their Article 5 pledge and joined us in Afghanistan are saying that Trump is doing what he did negotiating with the Taliban without the Afghan government’s involvement.
They blame Trump for that ending and don’t want the same outcome for Ukraine.
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02-21-2025, 03:41 PM
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"Seven western Wisconsin Republican lawmakers did not appear at an event hosted by the Wisconsin Farmers Union in Chippewa Falls Friday as farmers from the area said they were concerned about the effect that President Donald Trump’s first month in office is having on their livelihoods."
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02-21-2025, 04:18 PM
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Sh*ts starting to hit the fan, the big test will come when courts want to enforce EA reversals and Trump refuses. Guess who enforces those rulings when push comes to shove, they are US Marshalls and guess who they are reporting to, yup the Trump DOJ loyalists. His recent comments prove he believes he is the federal law, not the courts.
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02-21-2025, 04:25 PM
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In two days the market has said the economy and inflation are giving them a lot of concern. There is going to be a lot of buyers remorse if it continues to go sideways.
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02-21-2025, 06:36 PM
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This kid didn’t need a clearance
Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.
In addition to that he turns out to be the grandson of former KGB spy Valery Martynov, who played a role in a sprawling 1980s espionage saga.
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02-21-2025, 10:01 PM
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"During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the Starlink service (owned by Musk) if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations."
Astonishing betrayal of an ally.
The rest of the world sees this and will remember long after the FFOTUS is gone.
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02-22-2025, 07:11 AM
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Feel safer now with a news host working for a convicted felon game show host firing top military leaders at the Pentagon? Unless your an idiot you have realized climate change is real, yet Trump is stopping scientist from working on it. Wonder how RFK, our vaccine conspiracy general will handle the outbreaks getting going?
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02-22-2025, 07:32 AM
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The bitching whining and crying....is in perpetual motion now. I predict that this will be the longest running thread in SB history. All I need to do now is nudge the less mentally stable SHS people...like once a week.
....you know the ones that cant help themselves....and are typing away feverishly.... helpless in your strategy of resistance and denial. This president is going to wear you down like a pair of my workboots.....takes about a year.
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02-22-2025, 08:26 AM
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He’s cutting the debt
KRISTI NOEM SAYS $200 MILLION DHS AD CAMPAIGN THANKING TRUMP WAS HIS IDEA
Trump’s Homeland Security Secretary said he instructed her to make ads that “thank me for closing the border”
Because he’s not a dictator
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02-22-2025, 08:44 AM
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This kid didn’t need a clearance
Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.
In addition to that he turns out to be the grandson of former KGB spy Valery Martynov, who played a role in a sprawling 1980s espionage saga.
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The odds of this child having personal copies of terabytes of confidential information on US citizens is alarmingly high and makes them an ideal target for extortion or worse they could hold the data hostage for ransom.
Best case is Musk will use it for personal and political gain.
I do hope when this detonates a few of us are left to repopulate the species.
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02-22-2025, 08:45 AM
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The bitching whining and crying....is in perpetual motion now. I predict that this will be the longest running thread in SB history. All I need to do now is nudge the less mentally stable SHS people...like once a week.
....you know the ones that cant help themselves....and are typing away feverishly.... helpless in your strategy of resistance and denial. This president is going to wear you down like a pair of my workboots.....takes about a year.
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We’re impressed so far
Donald Trump's rapid-fire policy moves - and I'll note that the word "policy" is applied charitably in this case - are the economic equivalent of liberally tossing around lighter fluid and playing with a packet of matches.
His unnecessary, belligerent, and pointlessly aggressive tariffs, and his spending cuts (in the name of tax breaks for America's wealthy) have given his second term the fiscal aerodynamics of a lead balloon.
There's a difference between uncertainty and volatility, but Trump has lumbered into power with both at his heels, and America's economy is already feeling the one-two-punch.
The market reaction has been far from partisan. The S%P 500 is down 1.71%, the Nasdaq 2.20%. And the price of eggs, a marker that became the campaign-defining meme of Trump's financial promises, has soared; as of February 21, 2025, the national average wholesale price for a dozen Grade A eggs reached $8.07, the highest on record.
Trump's model of Governance through Executive Order has been defined by a tsunami of changes, from the petulant to the ideological. His tariffs - a blunt instrument favored by the economically illiterate - have targeted cars, semiconductors, and pharmaceuticals. Even Jim Farley, the Trump-supporting CEO of Ford, predicted the administration's approach would lead to "a lot of costs, a lot of chaos."
Meanwhile, Trump's co-president, Elon "Ketamine" Musk, has been let loose at the conjured-from-thin-air Department of Government Efficiency, where his cuts, irresponsible and incompetent at best, wilfully destructive at worse, have kicked off the wholesale collapse of employment across government departments and related industries; a ruin that will inevitably show up in stalled employment numbers.
The supply-chain ripple effect of Musk and Trump's effective shuttering of USAID is preemptively hitting agriculture and manufacturing. And markets are pricing in a gloomy assessment of policy disruption.
PMI has dropped to a 17-month low. Manufacturing is "front-running" tariffs as the reality of Trump's scorched earth economics sets in. The services area, both public and private, is already contracting. As it turns out, the "Trump Business Honeymoon" couldn't make it 30 days into his ignominious, post-conviction Presidency.
Consumer sentiment has followed Industry, falling to a 15-month low, with inflation expectations at their highest since 1995. And as Walmart has warned, the feedback loop between sentiment and spending couldn't be clearer. Americans are feeling the pinch, and their wallets are snapping shut.
None of this should be surprising to anyone with a functioning brain cell - so it's entirely understandable that it's left MAGA voters and Trump supporters gasping. Shooting from the hip is a poor approach to policy, and when uncertainty becomes an official strategy, the markets will fluctuate between erratic attempts at adaptation and paralysis. As euphoric as America's Oligarchs might have been about unchecked capitalism, the wholesale of regulation, and a Government that would either look the other way or lend a helping hand to their banditry, the fact is that markets thrive on stability. You cannot build on an unsteady foundation; right now, America's economic foundation is being undermined.
Disruption can be a positive force. But over the last decade, it has become a hand-wave that forgives and excuses irresponsible governance, poor decision-making, and financial incompetence. The reason you can't run the government like a startup is simple: 90% or more of startups fail. That's a risk threshold that should be unacceptable to anyone serious about the responsibility of America's stewardship.
Productive disruption in the context of an economy or a nation is possible. But there is no evidence of anything productive in Donald Trump's current approach to economics. Just more deliberate and collateral damage, more flagrant disregard for common sense, and more policies designed to shake things up while shaking the monetary baby to death.
The numbers surrounding Biden's soft landing, the numbers inherited by Trump and his gangsters, showed a nation bouncing back.
But Trump's performance in the first month of his second term is a strong signal that the soft landing is over, and America's fiscal outlook is grim to say the least.
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02-22-2025, 01:17 PM
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Just in
KYIV — The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan,
Trump will do anything for his own Image
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02-22-2025, 01:37 PM
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Just in
KYIV — The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan,
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If I had to wager, Trump is trying to cut a deal with Putin to hand over Ukraine if we get some minerals out of it. Russia will just install another corrupt president like Ukraine ousted before Zelinsky was democratically elected.
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02-22-2025, 02:27 PM
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Dodge claims it’s saved 55 billion dollars
Senate approves $350 billion plan for Trump border and defense spending
Trump and Musk supporters are dumber than a box of hair
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02-22-2025, 02:29 PM
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If I had to wager, Trump is trying to cut a deal with Putin to hand over Ukraine if we get some minerals out of it. Russia will just install another corrupt president like Ukraine ousted before Zelinsky was democratically elected.
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Absolutely Trump‘s just looking for something to make himself look good his base doesn’t care about the details, clearly neither do the Republicans
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02-22-2025, 02:38 PM
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Location: Libtardia
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Id go 1 step further and say the minerals are lithium. Who in trumps inner circle needs lots of lithium?
Cant wait for the new release of the Tesla Mein Kamphermobile
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