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08-04-2005, 01:43 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Jimmy, even trolling they are fun... the first run the make RUINS me from bass fishing for a few days, takes my head right out of bassin....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-04-2005, 01:48 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Jimmy, even trolling they are fun... the first run the make RUINS me from bass fishing for a few days, takes my head right out of bassin....
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Im just not big on the sitting and waiting while trolling, I like to plug.
I'm serious about the charter, there are a few 6hr slots open and it would be a good deal to split with someone else...
My wife is a tuna nut, loves to eat them so that will be the bargaining point for me
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08-04-2005, 02:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
Posts: 1,136
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Kevin .the new owner of Edwards Bait and Tackle in Newport , told me today that a guy came in and grabbed a bunch of pencil poppers and said he was getting the BFT on Point Jude tins and pencil poppers . Joe at Riverside Marine in Tiverton also showed me a 19 lb tuna pic caught with the small 1.5 oz. Point Jude Butterfish, which I was very happy to hear! 
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08-04-2005, 02:38 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Sounds like a great trip John. Is it true that when you hook a tuna it justs rolls on its side and floats to the top so you can reel it in???
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Close, what they typically did was burn off 80 yards or so of 60 pound braid on a VS250 twice, make a few laps around the boat, rip another 60 yards sounding down to the bottom where they would lie on their side taking their own damn time coming back to the surface and to the boat. Then they would be docile until they saw the hull and peeled off another 40 or so in the final run...
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Im just not big on the sitting and waiting while trolling, I like to plug.
I'm serious about the charter, there are a few 6hr slots open and it would be a good deal to split with someone else...
My wife is a tuna nut, loves to eat them so that will be the bargaining point for me
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RIJimmy - I'm not one for trolling though I would for tuna, this was PLUGGING for tuna and it was awesome. These schooled tuna would come clear out of the water and you'd get one or two cracks at them before they went down. But when you hit one
I would highly recommend talking to Eric if you wanted to do it and get someone to go with you. These fish probably won't be here for long and sometime next week (even tomorrow, who knows) they could easily be up in Falmouth or Middleground... He has openings for Sunday and Monday that I am aware of...
Bernzy - I think I would have smoked 'em on a Howdy
Eric, thanks again! I promise I will fix your work PC soon 
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08-04-2005, 02:43 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,204
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How far out do you have to go for these?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-04-2005, 02:47 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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tuna on wood!!  sounds like a blast!
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08-04-2005, 02:52 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
How far out do you have to go for these?
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Today? We could make out land but that's all I'm sayin'
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Originally Posted by afterhours
tuna on wood!!  sounds like a blast!
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They liked the squid - I was able to get clear across the schools and rip it thru... 
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08-04-2005, 02:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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This is not right! those fish dont have lines on them
Glad you had fun 
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08-04-2005, 02:55 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
This is not right! those fish dont have lines on them
Glad you had fun 
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Sure they do, the go from top to bottom 
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08-04-2005, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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A few guys have got them from shore at green hill beach and the east wall! Be carefull you dont get spooled! From what I hear, hopkins and castmasters are getting hits
I hope everybody goes tuna chasin and leaves all the bass to me 
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08-04-2005, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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Dont forget me when you cut up your steaks! If I am forced, I will eat it 
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08-04-2005, 03:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Im just not big on the sitting and waiting while trolling, I like to plug.
I'm serious about the charter, there are a few 6hr slots open and it would be a good deal to split with someone else...
My wife is a tuna nut, loves to eat them so that will be the bargaining point for me
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Juts remeber, not matter how much ou pay for the charter you can only keep one of them.
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08-04-2005, 05:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Everything is working at the moment if you present it right; we got pictures the past few days of tuna with Point Jude tins as well as Beachmaster Atom Jr's in their mouths. They're definitely into topwaters right now though, to the point of ignoring metal at times. They'd demolish a Howdy almost the moment it touched the water.
The right guide definitely matters for these things though, it'll make the difference between getting lucky and catching one, or catching so many your arms hurt.
For reference, a lot of them have had larger bait in their bellies; half-beaks, squid, and other larger tough to identify stuff. Not sure if they're finding that bait inshore or what. Only a few have been full of peanut bunker. Think big with your offerings...
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08-04-2005, 05:43 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Dont forget me when you cut up your steaks! If I am forced, I will eat it 
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I'll bring you over some tomorrow - after Liam goes to sleep, I am too  . Leslie just picked some up for mom...
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Juts remeber, not matter how much ou pay for the charter you can only keep one of them.
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Yep, just changed 5 days ago...
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08-04-2005, 06:14 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Sounds like you had an awesome day John!!! THats Awesome man! Cant wait to see the pics John! 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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08-05-2005, 10:38 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,825
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Federal Tuna License.
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but, according to Tom Meade in the Projo today, this is strickly a catch and release fishery unless you have a Federal Tuna License.
I don't imagine the Feds have the time or personnel to prosecute a few guys taking school fish but thought I'd mention this.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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08-05-2005, 10:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Sea or Sand
Posts: 1,947
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Piemma, that is correct, you do need a federal permit, there are 3 different catagories, commercial to sell, Charter-Head boat, & recreational. The Permit can be purchsed online for $22. There are also size catagories depending on which permits you posses and limits on catch and retain. All football tuna kept must measure at least 27 inches- 72 inches from the tip of the mouth, over the peck fin to the fork in the tail to keep. the quota's on the number of fish you can keep, change thruout the season and right now it is one fish per vessel for recreation, 1 for charter head boat and 2 over 72 inches for commercial I believe.
But I gotta tell ya when you see these fish out there it is an awesome site and a total adrenaline rush!!!! Yesterday we probably saw around 300 + tuna from 6 am to 3 pm. We had alot of shots at them but they can be finnicky at times but thats just the way fishing for these tunoids go. But you can't catch them if your not out there.
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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08-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Sea or Sand
Posts: 1,947
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One other thing to metion is that you are not even supposed to target and catch these fish with out a permit.
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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08-05-2005, 03:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lincoln, RI
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherwoman
One other thing to metion is that you are not even supposed to target and catch these fish with out a permit.
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Unless you are fishing exclusively in state waters (within 3 miles). This from the NMFS FAQs page:
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Do I need a recreational permit to fish for or land tunas, sharks, swordfish, and/or bilfish?
A: Yes, vessel owners/operators who recreationally fish for or retain regulated Atlantic tunas (bluefin, yellowfin, bigeye, albacore, and skipjack), sharks, swordfish, and billfish in Atlantic Federal waters, including the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea, must obtain an HMS Angling category permit or a HMS Charter/Headboat permit. However, General category vessels may fish recreationally for HMS so long as they are participating in a registered recreational HMS tournament and fishing under tournament rules. Vessels fishing exclusively in state waters are required to obtain the HMS Angling permit if they wish to keep their regulated tunas (bluefin, yellowfin, bigeye, skipjack, and albacore). Vessel owners/operators should check their state regulations regarding the retention of sharks, swordfish, and/or billfish in state waters.
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Best regards,
Roger
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08-05-2005, 10:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but, according to Tom Meade in the Projo today, this is strickly a catch and release fishery unless you have a Federal Tuna License.
I don't imagine the Feds have the time or personnel to prosecute a few guys taking school fish but thought I'd mention this.
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If that's what Tom said, then he is dead wrong. You need the federal license to even attempt to catch these fish. If you get caught casting into a school of them without a license you will get a hefty fine,
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08-05-2005, 10:59 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,825
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I tried to get the piece out of today's paper online but the stinking PROJO only has last weeks report. I will quote what Meade states.
"The fishing is strictly catch-and-release unless you have a federal permit, available from the National Marine Fisheries Service for $22....."
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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08-05-2005, 11:44 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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OK - here are a few pics:
First one:
AH Squid:
Booger's Bart

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