lets talk herring

[Offshore]

[QUOTE=thefishingfreak]ok,, not wanting to start a flame war here.
but anyone else think this total herring ban is gunna work?

lemmie just say a few things first.
there's no herring down south,, the cape,, etc.. right?
up north there's thousands.
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I don't know where you are getting your information from. I live mid-cape. All of our runs have some fish, but nowhere near what it was a few years ago

Connecticut has closed their runs and, I hear RI is looking to do the same. I just read where NH is in the process of closing theirs' too. Southern Maine rivers have very few fish.

As for enforcement, once a few get caught and fined and word gets out, it should deter the others. Here on the cape, various saltwater clubs have/are adopting runs and will help restore them and patrol them. In my area, the Cape Cod Salties are involved with mid-cape runs.

[thefishingfreak]

[QUOTE=Offshore]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

ok,, not wanting to start a flame war here.
but anyone else think this total herring ban is gunna work?

lemmie just say a few things first.
there's no herring down south,, the cape,, etc.. right?
up north there's thousands.
QUOTE]

I don't know where you are getting your information from. I live mid-cape. All of our runs have some fish, but nowhere near what it was a few years ago

Connecticut has closed their runs and, I hear RI is looking to do the same. I just read where NH is in the process of closing theirs' too. Southern Maine rivers have very few fish.

As for enforcement, once a few get caught and fined and word gets out, it should deter the others. Here on the cape, various saltwater clubs have/are adopting runs and will help restore them and patrol them. In my area, the Cape Cod Salties are involved with mid-cape runs.

that was hypathetcal...
i'm saying the main reason for the total ban was "very few" fish down south,, cape,,, etc...
right?

i get my info fom here ,,, myself...
like i said... i'm there all the time,and at more than four runs,, and i never seen anyone counting fish or anyone who could care less but me and fellow fishermen..
that river in lawrence has more herring than one can imagine. but no-ones counting at the right time..trust me there's thousands there too..
my bud gill nets them in NH rivers...lots of them.... legaly.. same thing.. no-ones there to care......

[New_Caster]

I asked this question myself and what I found out is there is a counter at the runs not a person but an optical one that gets the number. I went to 4 runs myself last year I did not take 1 fish just not my type of fishing. and I was white the opposit than you a complete lack of fish in any quantity.

[Vectorfisher]

Who is regulating these Russian ships in our waters taking our fish?

[BigFish]

The runs on the south shore were pretty barren this past spring Mike....Weymouth was horrible, Middleboro was also bad and they are usually so thick in Middleboro you can walk across them for weeks! The Bournedale herring run was terrible.......something has to give Mike and its gotta start somewhere! Seems like you are only thinking of yourself Mike....(don't take that the wrong way)....but in order to improve things all around, everyone has got to co-operate and maybe even suffer a little. My opinion however Mike is that its not the use of the herring by recreational sector that has depleted the stocks.....it is all the damage done by the commercial sector.....like it or not....my opinion is that the commercial sector does most of the damage to any fish stock due to overfishing, pure negligence, gluttony, greed and downright stupidity! So they penalize all for the acts of many! I do not fish live herring...never have so I don't really care one way or the other! Learn to fish those plugs you are making Mike....or build some that are good herring imitators.

[basswipe]

Those Russian ships are supplied by local fisherman.The Russians don't actually do any fishing they just buy and process.The Russians are invited here by the US government.The locals catching the herring are also sibsidized by the government.

[Redsoxticket]

The contribution of just one person will have a impact on the herring population.
Females usually reach 100% maturity by age 5 and produce from 60,000 - 103,000 eggs.
If 300 of 600 herring of fishfreaks take are females that is a large amount even with a 30% mortality.
We should be thankful that at least there is an effort to increase the population.

[shadow]

this is not a new problem.Connecticut's runs have been banned for 4 or 5 years now it's a problem that is speading north it seems.the scary part is ct runs have not improved at all since the bans.Something needs to be done about the manegment of the bait fish.

[Backbeach Jake]

Tho I've never fished herring, I've noticed a huge drop in populations over the years at runs that I've visited since mu childhood. We used to trap chubs and eels at these places and the herring were a nuisance in the 60's. Now only a few chubs are left...The herring need a break.

[Clogston29]

Regional closings or closing specific runs woudn't work because people would drive to the nearest one that is open. As it is, unless they close the runs in RI a bunch of MA guys will be driving down there and putting even more pressure on them. The main problems I see with the ban (and I do not have a ton of info on it) is that it does not seem to address the primary problem which is commercial fishing outside of US waters and that it'll just shift pressure to other bait fish that are already on the decline, such as mackerel and menhaden, as a bait source.