Bush Rant

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Do you still believe Iraq never had or used WMD's?

I believe they had them, because we gave Iraq the WMD's when they went to war with Iran, which was highly illegal. That is why the pentagon was so sure they had them.

I dont gove a flying F- if they used them or not over there, the fact is that they were never going to use them 'over here', and that was the battle cry- that Iraq was going to attack us with 'WMD's'

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I believe they had them, because we gave Iraq the WMD's when they went to war with Iran, which was highly illegal. That is why the pentagon was so sure they had them.

I dont gove a flying F- if they used them or not over there, the fact is that they were never going to use them 'over here', and that was the battle cry- that Iraq was going to attack us with 'WMD's'

I dont think anyone thought Iraq would attack us, the whole WMD thing was mainly that we knew Saddam had ties to Al Queada and Hamas and could very easily hand over WMD's to those terroist groups. And Bush beileved, as do I, that that was a strong possiblty and we just couldnt take that chance in a post 9/11 world. I guess you trusted Saddam to be a good little dictator and behave. I for one would'nt have taken that chance, Especially after 9/11. Who in thier right mind would have!?

Now we have a very simalur situation with Iran. We know they are trying to get a Nuke, they have siad they will destroy Isreal and we all know they have major ties to Al Queada. I doubt Iran will attack the U.S. but they certainly have the potential to destroy our allies and hand over weapons to Al Queada, who could use them to attack us. Do you trust that nut job in Iran to have wmd's? Given your stance on Iraq i can only assume you will not support any military action in Iran if it should come to that.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

I dont think anyone thought Iraq would attack us, the whole WMD thing was mainly that we knew Saddam had ties to Al Queada and Hamas and could very easily hand over WMD's to those terroist groups.

Actually, no we didn't...

What's been made clear after the fact is that the Administration had no credible evidence linking Saddam and Bin Laden, yet for some reason Skip believes it's true.

Can someone do the math here?

Now we have a very simalur situation with Iran. We know they are trying to get a Nuke

Actually we don't. We don't have any evidence that proves they are working on a nuke. There is much evidence that's suspect, but nothing conclusive.

This isn't to say Iran isn't a threat...but it certainly calls into question the motives of those sounding the alarm. So far their track record of success is quite poor.

-spence

[Skip N]

Here's some rather interesting stuff to read...

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=092503F

[spence]

Not really...all he's doing is stating rumor and unchecked statements as hard facts to get you to believe there's something of substance.

Skip...are you listening?

Every US Government group tasked with investigating this issue has come up completely cold...nothing...nada...zip...zilch.

The stuff from your tap is the Kool-Aid, the stuff in the pitcher in your fridge is water...

Time for a little switcheraroo.

-spence

[Skip N]

Ok so you say those are all lies and made up. How about some new stuff. Tons of documents captured in Afganastan and Iraq have recently been released and more are to be followed. Here's some more for ya...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...ieqmb.asp?pg=1

Of course this is from the weekly standard so i'm sure its all propaganda. But facts are facts. Some interesting stuff in this atricle, Including Iraqs ties to Philippine terroists which i have never heard of until reading this. Interesting read if nothing else.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Of course this is from the weekly standard so i'm sure its all propaganda. But facts are facts.

Yep and in these new documents the only thing the facts demonstrate is that a person reported hearing some of this second or third hand from a single unconfirmed source.

Sort of like the info they foolishly relied upon from Curveball

On it's own it has little value other than it give conspiracy folks something else to write about. OH BUT WHAT IF!!!

More importantly, it adds nothing to the argument that Bush were justified to remove Saddam because of links to al Qaida as we do know for a fact that the Administration didn't have the intel to support it's claims to the link before the decision was made.

And Bob, I'm with you. Even though our troops have signed up for whatever mission they are sent on...they are still our brothers and sisters and should be treated with much more respect.

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush and all have pissed on our troops like they are their little toy army, and the likes of Skippy can't seem to get why some are so outraged

-spence