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05-19-2006, 07:10 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Secrets of Large Bass
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf. A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................
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05-19-2006, 07:15 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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They do there homework, and have time to fish alot of nights, 7 nights a week, they know where the structure is and what tides/times to fish them.
some have old timers to show them the ropes other do it on there own. it just takes them longer
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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05-19-2006, 07:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
They do there homework, and have time to fish alot of nights, 7 nights a week, they know where the structure is and what tides/times to fish them.
some have old timers to show them the ropes other do it on there own. it just takes them longer
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What the guy above said....spots, times, tides plus experience.
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Good health and family
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05-20-2006, 12:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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My secret is in your backyard.GET BACK TO PAINTING BOY!!!It's time.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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05-20-2006, 12:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
Posts: 1,136
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Well , they must read the Pro-Jo fishing report and go to secret spots.
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05-20-2006, 12:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHABS
A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................
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High fiber diet.

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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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05-20-2006, 05:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Greenhill Rhode Island
Posts: 102
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Insomnia? 
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05-20-2006, 06:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHABS
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf. A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................
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I have the pleasure of knowing a couple... the secret is.. wish I knew.  Yes, they put their time in, know more about the forage for bass, than most others will ever know about bass. They know tides, moon phases, weather patterns, etc. Barometric pressure changes, affect them first,... they just know in their bones. they know that some beaches will produce at a certain tide, certain bar, for maybe 20 minutes, to half an hour, then they will move, before the fish do, so they can be at the next feeding station.
They pay a high price, professionaly, personally, for their passion for the surf, some will even tell you, in a reflective moment, that they regret ever taking up surf fishing for stripers, as they have suffered family relationships, and jobs for it. They are truly "Hard Core". I think the "secret" is that fishing for them, comes first and foremost. First over wives, kids, jobs, bills, everything.
That is the price they pay for their "secret". There might be some that can balance, "normal life" (whatever that is), and "Hard Core, Pure Fishing", but I have yet to meet one.
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05-20-2006, 05:18 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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simple::if you live where you have friend's in these area's.I've used these before, so have other's.cheating? no!just another fishing tool.
#1.plane's...siteseeing/tuna spotter's
#2.local comm. fish pier
#3.local dive shop
did I win a prize ? or just piss off some local ledgend somewhere .
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BOAT fish do count.
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05-20-2006, 05:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capesams
simple::if you live where you have friend's in these area's.I've used these before, so have other's.cheating? no!just another fishing tool.
#1.plane's...siteseeing/tuna spotter's
#2.local comm. fish pier
#3.local dive shop
did I win a prize ? or just piss off some local ledgend somewhere .
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Yes for honesty and perception...send me a lure please 
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Good health and family
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05-20-2006, 06:15 PM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: south plymouth, MA
Posts: 727
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whats mentioned above and lots of luck
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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05-20-2006, 07:16 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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There were two local ledgend's here long before the internet came along..These two would wait till the cover of darkness then slip into their boat and head into pleasent bay.Before first lite, they come ashore and head to the local fishmarket with hundred's of lb's of fish.Folk's would stop by in the morning at this market to see what was dropped off. There would be a huge pile of fish with the same two names nite after nite....Where? How? Boy these guy's are good......got gillnet? they were never caught....the moral of this story is if you dig deep enough into SOME of these ledgend's you'll find something fishy going on.
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BOAT fish do count.
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05-20-2006, 08:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: N. H. Seacoast
Posts: 368
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1. They make sure their tackle is in top working order at all times.
2. They concentrate their fishing in big fish areas. They are willing to fish areas where they may catch only a few fish but have an increased chance of catching a large fish. They will travel to the areas where the bigger fish are based on the migration season. It's more important to be where the fish are then to know an area inside out.
3. Learn how to fish the plugs or baits that are known to work on big fish in a given area. Eels, live or rigged, being number one. Jigs in fast water areas and swimmers and needlefish in the surf to note a few. Need to have faith in what your using to the point where your always thinking the next cast might be the one.
4. A small group of good fishermen willing to share information and work together is a great asset. This was an invaluable asset when I was a kid surf fishing the Jersey coast in the 60s. Today with the advent of the cell phone it's even better.
5. Fish every chance you get.
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05-20-2006, 08:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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I bet their jobs/life style's allow them to fish harder then most. I hope dudes like tat spend at least half the time they do with their kids as they do after big fish,,, Being a father/husband should be first, I've been guilty. If your job involves hard labor then your body can only put up with so much before break down,,no sleep ect. ect. I bet most of those guys have jobs that allows them to fish or are atleast flexiable
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05-21-2006, 06:09 AM
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Still A Plugger
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Woonsocket, R.I.
Posts: 731
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{ A small group of good fishermen willing to share information and work together is a great asset. This was an invaluable asset when I was a kid surf fishing the Jersey coast in the 60s. Today with the advent of the cell phone it's even better.}
fish whisperer, via the telephone.
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Dennis
Retired
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05-21-2006, 07:31 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
I have the pleasure of knowing a couple... the secret is.. wish I knew.  Yes, they put their time in, know more about the forage for bass, than most others will ever know about bass. They know tides, moon phases, weather patterns, etc. Barometric pressure changes, affect them first,... they just know in their bones. they know that some beaches will produce at a certain tide, certain bar, for maybe 20 minutes, to half an hour, then they will move, before the fish do, so they can be at the next feeding station.
They pay a high price, professionaly, personally, for their passion for the surf, some will even tell you, in a reflective moment, that they regret ever taking up surf fishing for stripers, as they have suffered family relationships, and jobs for it. They are truly "Hard Core". I think the "secret" is that fishing for them, comes first and foremost. First over wives, kids, jobs, bills, everything.
That is the price they pay for their "secret". There might be some that can balance, "normal life" (whatever that is), and "Hard Core, Pure Fishing", but I have yet to meet one.
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Exactly 
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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05-21-2006, 08:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 19
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They ask "Iron Mike" .............
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05-21-2006, 09:46 AM
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See you at the beach.
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Vero Beach FL. Bradford, RI.
Posts: 3,780
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Living near the beach helps. Alot.
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05-21-2006, 11:17 AM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: south plymouth, MA
Posts: 727
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cows dont care much for plastic or wood so use live bait or chunks
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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05-21-2006, 12:58 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHABS
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf........ Please share your thoughts.............................
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The best fisherman I know don't "Document" anything. They keep quiet about it.
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05-21-2006, 04:36 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CANAL RAT
cows dont care much for plastic or wood so use live bait or chunks
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Is that a fact? 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-21-2006, 04:50 PM
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EVERY FISH COUNTS!!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: south plymouth, MA
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big old bass get that way by not being caught or getting caught and released(which is very likely),think about it a 50lb striper is around 18 years old this old lady has seen everything from rigged eels to danny plugs.but in a sense when your fishing with bait your not tricking the bass into striking like with a plug,you are feeding the bass with a chunk of mackeral or a live pogy or eel which they will take down in a heart beat.
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todays schoolie is tomorrows keeper,todays keeper is tomorrows cow,practice catch and release!!!.
GOD BLESS THE NRA!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!
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05-21-2006, 04:58 PM
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got gas?
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,716
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big bait = big fish
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05-21-2006, 05:57 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CANAL RAT
big old bass get that way by not being caught or getting caught and released(which is very likely),think about it a 50lb striper is around 18 years old this old lady has seen everything from rigged eels to danny plugs.but in a sense when your fishing with bait your not tricking the bass into striking like with a plug,you are feeding the bass with a chunk of mackeral or a live pogy or eel which they will take down in a heart beat.
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Whatever you say 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-21-2006, 08:39 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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05-21-2006, 09:45 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty
You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.
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Or, you could ask Al McReynolds, Tony Stetzko, or Charlie Cinto, all of whom took 70#+ fish on lures (Stetzko's even hit a teaser fly instead of the live eel that was on the same leader), or Tim Coleman and Iron Mike who have multiple 60s on wood.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-21-2006, 09:53 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Frank Daignault, 7 stripers over fifty on plugs or rigged eels, and countless amount of 40 pounders. It doesn't take any skill to use bait it's all luck. Tony C. last year caught a 62.5 on a Habs Jointed Neddle
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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05-22-2006, 04:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
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I like to duct tape chunks onto my plugs 
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Good health and family
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05-22-2006, 07:16 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty
You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.
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technically the plug belonged to falptail and stifftip hoed it to fish with after seeing Steve nail bass after bass on it.
how about this for cow bait?  courtesy of Striperknight
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05-22-2006, 03:38 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
technically the plug belonged to falptail and stifftip hoed it to fish with after seeing Steve nail bass after bass on it.
how about this for cow bait?  courtesy of Striperknight
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that is awesome
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