Secrets of Large Bass - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Mike P · 05-21-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty

You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.

Or, you could ask Al McReynolds, Tony Stetzko, or Charlie Cinto, all of whom took 70#+ fish on lures (Stetzko's even hit a teaser fly instead of the live eel that was on the same leader), or Tim Coleman and Iron Mike who have multiple 60s on wood.

tattoobob · 05-21-2006, 09:53 PM

Frank Daignault, 7 stripers over fifty on plugs or rigged eels, and countless amount of 40 pounders. It doesn't take any skill to use bait it's all luck. Tony C. last year caught a 62.5 on a Habs Jointed Neddle

Skitterpop · 05-22-2006, 04:40 AM

I like to duct tape chunks onto my plugs

Steve K · 05-22-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob

It doesn't take any skill to use bait it's all luck.

Completely disagree.

tattoobob · 05-22-2006, 08:58 PM

Reasons?

Steve K · 05-23-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob

Reasons?

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

JFigliuolo · 05-23-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

Most of us don't consider eels bait. They are in a class by themselves. Not lures, but not bait either. Kind of a hybrid of the two.

DaveS · 05-23-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

Most of us don't consider eels bait. They are in a class by themselves. Not lures, but not bait either. Kind of a hybrid of the two.

Negative, a live eel is bait, a dead "rigged eel" is a rigged bait, and a rubber eel is a lure.

tattoobob · 05-23-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

I don't consider Eels Bait, A rigged Eels is definitely a lure. and a Live Eel is live bait, but it is fished like a lure. I concider Bait to be A chunk of fish or clam thrown and let sit on the bottom. baits that are fish like a lures I don't think is bait fishing.

spence · 05-23-2006, 09:23 AM

Bob, I've stood right next to a guy both fishing clams and been outfished 5:1.

The simple reason being he had intimate knowledge of the beach we were fishing and could place his bait where the fish were holding nearly every cast.

So you could question if this was really skill, or just experience...but if you're learning from your experiences then what's the difference?

-spence

Skitterpop · 05-23-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

Any bait .... live or dead can be finessed to catch more than if not except for the rare situations which still may contain skill. Luck is always a factor for those who excell and for those that don`t ....I think.

jim sylvester · 05-23-2006, 10:31 AM

as far as eels are concerned,whether they are rigged or live is an art within itself, just as rubber worm fishing is in sweetwater. in regards to luck involved when catching cows, i feel the elite who know the water, the tides, the moon know that something LARGER (30+#bass)will be holding in a sepcific spot (boulders, rips, 1 foot drop in the middle of a 3 mile long beach). Put your time in, keep a log book and it will pay off. But there is without a doubt skill to fishing with eels.

No Way is it luck