Comment on Bush's speech last night

[slapshot]

Yes they were arrested over there, but the focus of the attack was the United States with US carriers. US intelligence had a hand in the operation.

The success was not because of compromise, diplomacy or understanding why our enemy hates us.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by slapshot

Yes they were arrested over there, but the focus of the attack was the United States with US carriers. US intelligence had a hand in the operation.

The success was not because of compromise, diplomacy or understanding why our enemy hates us.

I thought it was almost all British and the plan was to detonate over the water?

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

I thought it was almost all British and the plan was to detonate over the water?

The plan was to detonate over major US cities. British and US Intell had a huge part in stopping this. And i even heard secret wire tapping was involved! Oh my god not that!

You just can't give the US intell any credit can you?

Anyone who thinks the US is no safer since the 9/11 attacks five years ago is in denial. We have taken out and captured MANY senior Al-Queada members in the last five years, and stopped many terroists plots. Yet we are not safer?? I credit the Government big time for this. Wether you support or hate Bush with a passion, you can't deny he has taken the fight to the terroists, and captured and killed god knows how many Al-Queada members. The goverment is doing thier job in protecting America, and taking the fight to the terroists, the fight they %$%$%$%$ing started i might add!

[Skip N]

I'm sick of all the Monday morning quarterbacks. Do you know how many plans got %$%$%$%$ed up in WWII?? More than anyone can count i'm afraid. Remember Operation Market Garden? A total %$%$%$%$ up in Intell, and it turned into a bloody defeat for the allies in Holland. Intell said the germans in the area were mostly old men and boys, turned out to be hard core SS troops. Nothing in war goes perfect, thier will be %$%$%$%$ ups. It sucks, but it's reallity.

Even Spence, Mr. Perfect, couldn't come up with a perfect plan. It just doesnt happpen! You have to asses the situation on the ground as it is NOW. And go from there. This coulda, woulda, shoulda, is really getting old and tiring.

[Skitterpop]

Skip...as usual ..... " I can never give US Intel any credit".... where do you get that from my brief post? You just make up stuff and whip it out there.

The discovery of the plan and dealing with it was largely British and US Intel was called on it.... I missed the detonating over US city thing.


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We are creating more terrorists by our war with Iraq. Not that they don`t have some terrorists but are not most of the current leading terrorists from Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Palestine.... not to mention all the other countries with Muslim terrorists at the helm or working on it.Or the non Muslim countries with terrorists.

If we said we needed to build military bases in Iraq to further our interests in that region and we hoped to get a bunch of oil for $7 dollars less a barrel than the larger market charges our war there would be more open and honest.


I look forward to your interpretation of my thoughts as always .

[Flaptail]

The spin doctor's on W's team must be getting hard up for new material.

[Skitterpop]

Agent infiltrated terror cell, U.S. says

Air travel in chaos after plot to bomb airliners exposed


Friday, August 11, 2006; Posted: 3:33 p.m. EDT (19:33 GMT)

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Terrorists were in the "final stages" of a plot to simultaneously blow up as many as 10 jets leaving Britain for the U.S., sending the planes and thousands of passengers into the Atlantic Ocean, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.
British and Pakistani authorities teamed up to thwart the attacks, and 24 men were arrested in overnight raids in Britain, authorities said.
An undercover British agent infiltrated the group, giving the authorities intelligence on the alleged plan, several U.S. government officials said.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

I look forward to your interpretation of my thoughts as always .

Why bother? it's the same BS you spew all the time. If we use your logic for the war on terror, the US can never take the fight to the enemy overseas, after all, if we go after the enemy in a middle eastern country, we will only cause anger and and create more terroists right? So i guess the US must sit around and do nothing so we don't cause more poeple to hate us? Actually we tried that before, we tried ignoring the threat of terroism, and guess what happend? 3000 americans we're slaughtered in cold blood 5 years ago yesterday. And now people like you imply we can't go after the terroists, because it might casue more people to hate us? You havent learned a damn thing about terroism after 9/11.

Dude, thats some crazy ass thinking! Using your logic, we can't go anywhere to fight the radical muslims who want to do us harm!

Thank god someone like you will NEVER be in the White House running the show.

[Skitterpop]

Skip.... you don`t make any sense and your crazy... where do you get your information? I love how you twist everyones comments to some wacked out version of a reply .

[Skip N]

Yeah i'm crazy alright, if understanding that radical Islam needs to be fought and defeated, then yes, I guess i am crazy.

Are you French by any chance?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Skip N

the US can never take the fight to the enemy overseas, after all, if we go after the enemy in a middle eastern country, we will only cause anger and and create more terroists right? So i guess the US must sit around and do nothing so we don't cause more poeple to hate us? Actually we tried that before, we tried ignoring the threat of terroism, and guess what happend? 3000 americans we're slaughtered in cold blood 5 years ago yesterday. And now people like you imply we can't go after the terroists, because it might casue more people to hate us? You havent learned a damn thing about terroism after 9/11.

I really, really try to stay out of these things but.....Skip, I agree 100% with your above statement. The "we cause more terrorists by attacking them" theory does not work for me. My issue is that mistakes were made but.....did we learn from them? Mistakes were made in every war, but look at how many times generals were shullfed around? I cant justify that Rumsfeld is still in his position. we have made NO progress in a few years other than Zarqawi (sp??) and a few high priortiy hits. Lets get some new thinking and strategy in there.