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Old 10-31-2006, 10:14 PM   #1
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I like Hiliary for President
Did you see her in the last debate?

She was looking pretty HOT

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:26 PM   #2
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The whole thing is that the poor fight the wars for the rich and as soon as someone points that out to them they cry wolf, the facts are that they got themselves into a war they can't find a way out of and by trashing the comments of Kerry and turning the tables they think it will take the blame off of them.

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:27 PM   #3
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People should really listen to this quote in context. Kerry is in no way dissing the troops...it's a bunch of GOP manipulation.

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:34 PM   #4
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People should really listen to this quote in context. Kerry is in no way dissing the troops...it's a bunch of GOP manipulation.

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Exactly what I was trying to say

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Old 11-01-2006, 07:42 AM   #5
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People should really listen to this quote in context. Kerry is in no way dissing the troops...it's a bunch of GOP manipulation.

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those comments, however intended, were completely unnecessary.

any way you spin it, it is a negative for the dems. you can't honestly believe that Nancy Pelosi (that scumbag #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& biTTCH) is happy about this?

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People should really listen to this quote in context. Kerry is in no way dissing the troops...it's a bunch of GOP manipulation.

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I did listen to the quote, as well as the preceeding remarks. Immediately prior he is admonishing his audience to study hard, do their homework and become smarter or else "they'll be stuck in Iraq." If anyone is spinning this its the dems, it's extrodinarily clear from the context that Kerry was NOT talking about Bush, but about the men and women who arte in Iraq, i.e. our armed forces.

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I finally realized what spence's problem is! It all stems from the 2000..."stolen election". It'll take him awhile to get over the fact that they just lost it...

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I finally realized what spence's problem is! It all stems from the 2000..."stolen election". It'll take him awhile to get over the fact that they just lost it...
Yea, I'm moping about...that's it

Uffah!! It's the policy stupid!

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Old 11-01-2006, 10:34 AM   #9
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You know what's really funny? Spence makes all you guys like like idiots and you don;t even realize it!

These new "tabloid" style Politics drag all the same kinds of people the "enquirer" drags out, puppet rednecks who don;t know what they stand for. Bush says something stupid you all follow him like puppies, Bush says something smart, you lick his hand and keep on going. It's HILARIOUS from here, but SCARY for the future of our nation. NOBODY in politics talks about what we CAN do to become BETTER people or a better nation. It's all about what the OTHER guy is doing WRONG. Sickening... Bush has not done ONE thing right IMHO and you guys can't see the forest for the trees (you don;t know what that means either prob) it's ok... he's not my president, and never will be....

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If anyone is spinning this its the dems, it's extrodinarily clear from the context that Kerry was NOT talking about Bush, but about the men and women who arte in Iraq, i.e. our armed forces.
That's silly.

Again, if it wasn't Kerry and the Vietnam era stigma he represents to many this wouldn't the story it is. Does anyone really believe Kerry thinks our military is dumb? I sure don't...

Certainly Kerry shouldn't have left himself open as he did, but given the level of campaign rhetoric from both sides this isn't deserving of the press it's getting.

The GOP can't do enough to distract the American people from their record, let's not forget that.

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:21 PM   #11
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That's silly.
Where do you see a reference to Bush in this quote? Remember he is talking to an audience of students.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq"

If you think the pronoun "you" refers to Bush, you need to go back to English classes.

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Where do you see a reference to Bush in this quote? Remember he is talking to an audience of students.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq"

If you think the pronoun "you" refers to Bush, you need to go back to English classes.
I really think that it was supposed to be a joke/shot and just did not come out even close to right, the way I heard it I thought he was trying to say:

"You know, education, if you make the most of it (unlike our president), if you study hard and you do your homework (unlike our president), and you make an effort to be smart (unlike our president), uh, you, you can do well (unlike our president). If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq (like our president)"

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Does anyone really believe Kerry thinks our military is dumb? I sure don't...


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I do, at least in part. I think Kerry believes that anyone who has "E-x" instead of "O-x" as their pay grade is dumb Just like most other ROTC butterbars. And I don't doubt for a second that the 90 day wonder in the White House shares that opinion.

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I do, at least in part. I think Kerry believes that anyone who has "E-x" instead of "O-x" as their pay grade is dumb Just like most other ROTC butterbars. And I don't doubt for a second that the 90 day wonder in the White House shares that opinion.
Was listening to Mike Barnacle on MSNBC this afternoon describe how Kerry broke down in tears while speaking at the funeral for a "lower pay grade" friend of his a few years back.

While the generalization may be true, it may not always be true.

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spence and skitterpop ....thanks for the halloween scare...

and if you were both being serious ........ than go to hell...

because both of those statements make me wanna barf

Hillary would make a terrible president....and not because she's a woman either........

all she wants to do is rub noses with the british snobby queen.

if she were to be elected...i would no longer want to be an American.
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Just as a little bit of information that many do not know…With the education policy now enforced in our schools, the military has been given the right to actively recruit any student that has grades lower than those needed for future education. That right has been given with the funds given from the government. When the recruiters go to the schools they are to be provided with the names from the school and they then pressure the kids to join the military service.

Folks that means the military is not necessarily looking for the brightest, but possibly those they think will not go any further. They offer some the opportunity to enlist and not even finish school.

I wonder if Kerry was referring to that policy ??

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John Kerry has once again proved what he thinks of U.S. Military Men and Women.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:46 AM   #19
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Kerry's statement was relevent when the Vietnam War was going on and there was a draft!!!
If you want to end this war and get the troops out of Iraq, you need to start a draft with NO deferments!!!
See how many Rich Kids would go, without their parents causing a Big STINK!!!
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The way I interperted the comment was - unless you're in college, you might get drafted.
This spin is what either party would do... politics suck.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:55 PM   #21
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Just as a little bit of information that many do not know…With the education policy now enforced in our schools, the military has been given the right to actively recruit any student that has grades lower than those needed for future education. That right has been given with the funds given from the government. When the recruiters go to the schools they are to be provided with the names from the school and they then pressure the kids to join the military service.

Folks that means the military is not necessarily looking for the brightest, but possibly those they think will not go any further. They offer some the opportunity to enlist and not even finish school.

I wonder if Kerry was referring to that policy ??
Now that, is a policy I would like to read for myself, can you provide additional info on that?
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