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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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11-20-2006, 02:27 PM
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It has nothing to do with INsurance companies and everything to do with REinsurance companies Vermont Mutual, Quincy Mutual, Commerce, et. al would love to write the high priced homeower's coverage on the Cape . . . however they are prevented from doing so by there reinsurer.
Mike your point on the FAIR PLan is a fair one . . . but what is the alternative? Individually underwrite every risk . . . the "descrimination" lawyers would have a field day so the Plan arrived at territorial boundries.
Before you go off and b!tch about insurance companies read this thread right here on SB.com . . . some have an "eltitlement" mentality that raises the cost of insurance for all . . .
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=36105
And to answer the obvious question, yes, I work in the insurance industry (although not P&C) and own a home on the Cape (FAIR Plan)
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11-20-2006, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester2
It has nothing to do with INsurance companies and everything to do with REinsurance companies Vermont Mutual, Quincy Mutual, Commerce, et. al would love to write the high priced homeower's coverage on the Cape . . . however they are prevented from doing so by there reinsurer.
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But they don't have to reinsure their business unless they want to. If the reinsurers won't let them write the business they want, they can get a new reinsurer or go w/o reinsurance - right?
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11-20-2006, 06:29 PM
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I called my agent today. I am now on a waiting list just to talk to him 
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Fly & Light Tackle Fishing
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11-21-2006, 05:33 AM
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land of the free?????its a pain in the a$$
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11-21-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
But they don't have to reinsure their business unless they want to. If the reinsurers won't let them write the business they want, they can get a new reinsurer or go w/o reinsurance - right?
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Reinsurers are in lock step with each other . . . Go nakid on reinsurance? . . . auditors and regulators will be on them like a Hobo on a Hotdog 
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11-21-2006, 12:26 PM
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Your not required to have reinsurance. Its a business decision. You can't voluntarily enter into an agreement with someone and then blame the other party for the conditions of the contract you entered into voluntarily. Assuming all things being equal, regulators don't care IF you have reinsurance - they only examine the treaties to make sure their legal, etc. In fact, regulators would rather you not have reinsurance. They might allow you to write more business if you have reinsurance than if you don't.
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11-21-2006, 04:01 PM
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Who said anything about changing the contract . . . the company met their obligation during the term of the policy then chose not to renew it - a business decision.
Show me an insurance company that does not have reinsurance . . . and I'll show you a charter boat that makes a "business decision" to not have any tackle
I'm done - you're obviously much smarter than I am about these matters . . .
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11-21-2006, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester2
Who said anything about changing the contract . . . the company met their obligation during the term of the policy then chose not to renew it - a business decision.
Show me an insurance company that does not have reinsurance . . . and I'll show you a charter boat that makes a "business decision" to not have any tackle
I'm done - you're obviously much smarter than I am about these matters . . .
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Where did I say anything about changing a contract?
Many do - do you think AIG reinsurers every product? If they don't its a business decisions. I know my former insurance company employers did not reinsure every product.
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11-22-2006, 06:56 AM
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I live on thesecond highest hill in Falmouth ( which as far as hills go anywhere else in the state isn't that much) 80 feet above sea level. My insurance is wrapped up in my home loan as are my taxes. This year the insurance company decided to no longer write homeowners policies on the Cape. The bank who holds my mortgage went apesh!t on them. I was about to lose my mortgage because you have to have insurance as a stipulation for the loan ( which is six years from being paid in full), they had me looking in a panic and my insurance agent did work thier ases off and were not having much success until at the 23rd hour my original insurance company decided, out of "compassion" for thier current policy holders to grandfather them but write no new ones. I hate insurance companies anyway, you penalized by an increase in your rate if you make a claim and don't even start with me about car insurance since my 17 year old got her license last year. Oil and Insurance are two of the most legally corrupt industries on the planet.
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Why even try.........
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