Striper Cup 2007 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Back Beach · 01-09-2007, 10:38 AM

Yes, I know its early to think about it, but I was thinking about it Sunday as I encouraged one of my buddies to participate this year who didn't last year. What are people's thoughts on the 2007 Striper Cup? What will you base your decision to enter the tourney on? Will you sit on the sidelines and say its not fair

, or will you jump in and compete?

JFigliuolo · 01-09-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

Yes, I know its early to think about it, but I was thinking about it Sunday as I encouraged one of my buddies to participate this year who didn't last year. What are people's thoughts on the 2007 Striper Cup? What will you base your decision to enter the tourney on? Will you sit on the sidelines and say its not fair

, or will you jump in and compete?

I'll sit on the sidelines... Not really interested in it.

chris L · 01-09-2007, 11:11 AM

me too !

Mr. Sandman · 01-09-2007, 12:05 PM

Waiting to see what they do with the rules this year. If they keep it the same as last year I'll pass. It largely favors comm boat fishermen at the moment, and they need to address a number of other issues that were brought up during the event...

Roger · 01-09-2007, 01:15 PM

I continue to have no interest in a kill tournament.

Sluggoslinger · 01-09-2007, 03:17 PM

I plan on entering and if I get a big slob then I might weigh it. I might join the S-B team if I can... we'll see but it seems like fun and when I poked my head in the harpoon fest, I wished I had done it last year.

JohnR · 01-09-2007, 03:59 PM

I had a chat with someone from OTW a couple months back and he said that they appreciated the candid and honest commentary coming from this site. Some changes are being looked at but time will tell.

The good news is that last year before the toruney started there was a lot of, err, discussion, that they listened to and made some appropriate changes for the better. Using that as a baseline I'm fairly confident they will take an honest look at the tourney and tweak things a bit for the better this year as well.

Backbeach Jake · 01-11-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

I had a chat with someone from OTW a couple months back and he said that they appreciated the candid and honest commentary coming from this site. Some changes are being looked at but time will tell.

The good news is that last year before the toruney started there was a lot of, err, discussion, that they listened to and made some appropriate changes for the better. Using that as a baseline I'm fairly confident they will take an honest look at the tourney and tweak things a bit for the better this year as well.

They listened, agreed and changed some rules. In a more conservation minded direction. That's good for me. I'm in.

Mike P · 01-11-2007, 06:08 PM

Two things is all they need to fix.

1) Separate divisions for shore/boat. I'll take my chances against a shore bound commercial pinhooker

2) Freeze club entries 30 days into the tournament, to prevent someone from staring up a club just for the commercial season.

As far as the "kill" aspect of it goes, I'll bet there were less than 500 fish entered. I did a rough count of all of the 30-57 pound fish entered and it was right around 300. Many clubs had a "nothing under 30" rule for their members. That's for a tourney that stetched from Maine to NJ and ran almost 5 months. Compare that to the numbers entered in the MV Derby, for one month, and I think you'll see that the OTW wasn't the "striper slaughter" that some people on other websites think it was

Backbeach Jake · 01-11-2007, 06:24 PM

Maybe 30# should be the minimum, then. Sounds as though this Tournament is close to an ideal. I entered nothing last year

, but I'm proud that my fellow members and others fished as conservativly as they did, you don't need to kill every fish in the Ocean to have a good time.

inTHERAPY · 01-12-2007, 01:28 PM

I will enter again next year also. In a conversation w/ Gene Bourque last night at the boat show he spoke openly about some of the proposed changes. While I do not think I am at liberty to print verbatim what i was told I can say most of "your" concerns are being addressed.
Larger minimum size fish, dedicated shore division, weighted points system per pound for shore fish, 10 truck keys, catch and release. Sign-up it's gonna be fun!

The Dad Fisherman · 01-09-2007, 04:00 PM

I'm going to do it this year....Probably gonna fish for PISC this year

Back Beach · 01-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Honestly, I would like to see a dedicated surf division for the overall, and give the 5 leading surf guys a stab at the grand prizes too. As for the commercial guys fishing, they really have no advantage IMO. The one fish a week thing takes care of that pretty well. Keep everything else the same.Will still fish it if they don't change anything as it gave me a little extra incentive last year, not that I need incentive.

MartinD18 · 01-09-2007, 05:49 PM

I have it on very good authority that there will be a surf division this year. Plus some other interesting changes that should level the playing field in a lot of ways, both for individuals and clubs.

tattoobob · 01-09-2007, 06:13 PM

I'm not joining

NIB · 01-09-2007, 07:23 PM

I had 4 fish weighed 146 lbs..
12 lbs off the leader.. to come in third..
No mention or anything.. I got these 4 pins i don't know what to do with..
I busted my but to put them numbers up..
I was in the top five basically since June..
In my book what I did was as good or better than any of the one hit wonders who where able to post a fish from a boat for the grand prize.
Yea sounds like sour grapes..
I should have been better aware of the format..
I doubt next yr i will go thru the same thing Killin 4 majestic beauties for nothin..
There was some talk of a local club being formed to compete on a more competitive level Jersey shore surf casters..
I might feel obligated to kill some stuff for them...

piemma · 01-12-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob

I'm not joining

Me either. Enough with these tounaments. Just an excuse to kill fish (which in principle I am not opposed to as long as the fish gets eaten).
I have done this long enough and am old enough where I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone. Got enough trophies to start a store. I fish because I love to fish not to win an award.

RIJIMMY · 01-11-2007, 02:16 PM

its not my thing. but I respect those that do join. Every year I have a tough competetion between how I did last year, with how I am doing this year. That is enough to motivate me and saisfies my need to "win".

riverrat2 · 01-11-2007, 02:37 PM

I have no problem with the comms fishing the tournament. Was anyone in the top 5 a comm guy anways? I've said this before but I couldn't see any comm guy weighing a large fish verse selling it. I would never consider weiging in a 40lb fish to get a pin rather than 120$.

Back Beach · 01-11-2007, 02:50 PM

I was never involved in clubs or contests in my life. My drive was always in catching fish to sell, which I don't do very often now. About five years ago I entered my first vineyard derby and had a blast. As for the Striper Cup, I wasn't going to enter last year, but finally did in early July. Like I said, fishing is fun, but incentivizing it for me gives me something to focus on and give a little bit extra effort. It got me out on the water many nights when I would have normally hit the snooze button. Bottom line is I love competition, and America loves a winner.

Bigcat · 01-11-2007, 02:51 PM

Not intersted in kill tournaments.

Krispy · 01-11-2007, 04:02 PM

I agree w/ NIB, the format needs work. If they make some of the changes that BackBeach outlined I would be happy to enter.
Right now its skewed, it sucks to be a top 5 competitor and get nothing or worse beat out by boat guys who are always gonna place. You cant compare 150lbs from the boat vs the surf and its not right to have to compete w/ them.
As for comms, I dont think it makes a difference

Nebe · 01-12-2007, 09:29 AM

what flap said.. daddy needs a new truck, but other than that, i dont need a stinkin pin

NIB would have won the shore division

Swimmer · 01-12-2007, 12:04 PM

Many valid points!

Swimmer · 01-27-2007, 11:57 AM

I agree with John about the commercial fisherman advantage from a numbers standpoint. However, I believe thier greatest advantage is from another perspective, and that is the knowledge they have of where the fish are located on a day to day basis, not only as it relates the size of a school of fish that is being fished by the com guys, but the size of the fish taken as well. Very few chat up each other, but thier are certain people who let other certain people know where they are catching, because they are buddies on and off the water. Some boats while they dont share profit do fish in tandem, and watch out for each other in many many other ways.
Some of the guys I know that fish commercially could care less about a tournament, and do not enter any.

NIB · 01-28-2007, 09:29 AM

I really don't understand the why guys in boats do not want to fish against the com guys..
Look at it this way u still have a 2 fish per day limit..
u know to even get a mention ur gonna have to get one in the mid forties..
So u get one 46 lbs it goes in the cooler.an u fish for a bigger one..
U should all be ashamed of urselves as MEN..
I hear these cry's of time on the water an amount of fish it all means crap.'
Do u wanna beat the best to be the best or do u wanna play on some kinda fishing for the time impaired/skill level impaired curve..
.

Here is a god example for u cry baby's look at kenny Cow Hunter..
Surf guy for a few yrs has lots of drive gets a boat spends lots of time honin his craft an the guy consistantly gets big fish..
All in the time frame of a few yrs really..
He's from NJ.Thats why he's good..

It ain't a spot thing it's technique..
He can fish with most anyone in the waters that stripers swim..
Suck it up..

Saltheart · 02-01-2007, 11:51 PM

I'll probably enter just so I can attend the end of tourney bash. Saw lots of friends there last year.

Homerun04 · 03-12-2007, 07:53 PM

I'm in...but really just for the comraderie and the party at the end.....will only weigh my biggest fish (40+ pounders)....

NIB · 03-13-2007, 06:59 AM

The contest took quite a few of my jersey bretheran last yr off guard.They are putting together quite a team for this yr..
If the fishing holds up like it has in past yrs an with the new format of 1.3 per lb for surf fish.I don't see any problem of a team total of over 500 lbs. It should be interesting..
I have committed to them.Not really sure what I am doing yet.
Like I said I didin't really like killin all the fish i did last yr..
Still have a bad taste in my mouth about it...
Somones gonna kill em though.
It's really gonna be insane this yr as the cat is not only out of the bag but it has spawned..
There's experts doin seminars an how to's..
It's one thing to be on the end of a crowded jetty with guys who know what they are doing..
U add one bad apple an it can be really dangerous with the big hooks flyin all over the place.
Not sure I wanna get all up it..
There will be rumblin on the rocks..
Time to find another way to skin this feline....