Menhaden Bill introduced

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by DZ

I have mixed feelings about this development. It will hurt the local bait shops big time and they’re already hurting enough. I think there will be opposition on the bait front – from bait shops and lobstermen. And, like has been said already, pogies make bass to easy to target and catch (which I admit is not always a bad thing). But think about this for a minute – the run of pogies in Narragansett Bay this year was great, and I bet lots of fishermen took more large bass than any time of their life. So you have lots of pogies AND lots of big bass harvested. Is that good? I’m not so sure.
Secondly, it’s one stinking company – and a company that has always shared its catch with sport fishermen. To me this is stabbing Ark bait in the back.

Just a few thoughts to ponder….

DZ

Thank you. I was a little over caffinated last night and when i read this bill I posted my thoughts a little too quickly. Today i am a little more level headed and hopefully i can articulate my feelings better-

To clarify, I am 100% for the protection of pogies. Theres no argument that a bass who eats alot of them will grow to be fat and healthy. I really think they should be protected down in the chesapeake, but thats adifferent story.
Sure, if in a few years there are ample amounts of pogies distributed everywhere, then thats awesome.

NIB- how was the fishing along the NJ beaches where the pogies had left?? Any bass? Did NJ still have resident fish along jetties that had seen pogies a few days before?

Agian i am for this, i just want peope to know (especially the surfcasters) that having alot of pogies around will make things very intereresting..

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Nebe

NIB- how was the fishing along the NJ beaches where the pogies had left?? Any bass? Did NJ still have resident fish along jetties that had seen pogies a few days before?


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I had a 35 on a jig an a 34 lber on a MAC Pikie before the pogie madness started..Sure fishing was tough even with the live herring..
U gotta work ur but off in NJ..
After they left it was almost august..
We had good fish well into july.
in fact I went to BI on 7/16-7/21 an that saturday they while i was away they got some..
U will get the usuall cries from those who give half assed efforts.
Do they create a bass vacumm when the big pods arrive yes..
But the fishing to follow is something many have never ever seen.. Guys fishing 40 yrs..
Never seen the the likes of what we had since we kicked the reduction boats out..
When I say I had 30-40 fish over 30 lbs it's no lie..
Think about it...
Thats several lifetimes of fish that size for a good angler...
NJ still has the bait boats..
I wonder where them ARK boats will go if RI kicks em out..

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

but Steve's excellent surf fishing was done with the aid of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s boat and going to areas as close to where the pogies were.

E - I think you are off the mark a bit and trading literally a handful of trips in Bill's boat for many trips in Bill's boat. As for the surfcasting from the island, I dropped them off so I know a bit about that trip. Bunker weren't involved, eeling & sluggos were the trick.

Originally Posted by Nebe

you are a boat fisherman with a comercial liscence. I bet you have a hard on the size of prudence island after hearing there are going to be more pogies for you to snag and drop.

E - I think you are off the mark a bit again as you don't understand Clammer when it comes to fish, commercial or otherwise. He'd rather catch that 6# bass from begin a rock on a little swimmer than chasing big fish all day long Yo-Yoing Pogies. Now if he happens to catch "money fish" in season he'll sell them but he also understands the bassonomics of RI isn't a very profitable gig unless they are close to you...

Not a big deal but I wanted to point out a couple things when concerning friends of mine.

Originally Posted by NIB

I wonder where them ARK boats will go if RI kicks em out..

Nibtastic - I believe they go to NJ after they leave RI every year. They are typically in RI for a week to three weeks...

What I would like to see is less pi$$ing contest more debate (if needed) in ths thread. There are good arguments made here just a little less arguing please

Thanks

[NIB]

Seems any discussions involving a few guys around here turn ugly..
It's unfortunate that it has to come to that..
I say we set up the octagon.
Lets Get It On...
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