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			01-31-2007, 06:42 PM
			
			
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				Yep, Your right but my point is he left himself open to some very broad interpretation of his comment and as we've already seen both sides are running with it. 
			
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 That's just the information manipulation age we now live in. Biden thinks and speaks off of the cuff, which can certianly be dangerous.
 
But in the end the people will decide, and his foreign policy expertise might just in the end make him a fine decider.
 
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			01-31-2007, 09:38 PM
			
			
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			02-01-2007, 07:02 AM
			
			
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		This just in... Al Sharpton takes a bath every day.    
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-01-2007, 09:33 AM
			
			
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		 Now that this silly story has been flushed from the news cycle, there is one observation worth making. 
 
Biden was attacked from the far right and far left. 
 
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1) Both extremes are very threatened by his running 
2) He really is a centrist  
 
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			02-01-2007, 10:31 AM
			
			
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				Now that this silly story has been flushed from the news cycle, there is one observation worth making. 
 
Biden was attacked from the far right and far left. 
 
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1) Both extremes are very threatened by his running 
2) He really is a centrist  
 
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 To me it indicates that the right just jumped on a wounded animal and had fun exploiting an incredibly idiotic and campaign threatening statement much like they did with John Kerry's gaffe a couple of months ago.
 
The far left wants the Kerrys and Bidens of the world out of the way in order to promote faces that aren't re-treads. They need to run with the 'grass roots' and 'fresh faces' theme that Howie Dean has instituted. So they stabbed Ole' Joe in the throat also. It is a Ruthless business.
 
Don't get me wrong, Biden's qualifications are on par with the other candidates, but in my opinion, fair or not, he doesn't have the slightest chance.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Joe Biden is a super Ball 
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-01-2007, 08:10 PM
			
			
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				Now that this silly story has been flushed from the news cycle, there is one observation worth making. 
 
Biden was attacked from the far right and far left. 
 
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 This is far from flushed. Everywhere I turn it's in my face.  I have to admit I never expected this much or this kind of reaction to his statement despite the way he presented it.  I'm a little disappointed that he actually apologized.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-01-2007, 08:45 PM
			
			
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				This is far from flushed. Everywhere I turn it's in my face.  I have to admit I never expected this much or this kind of reaction to his statement despite the way he presented it.  I'm a little disappointed that he actually apologized. 
			
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 He simply said he was sorry if Obama was offended...he didn't admit any real error.
 
And it's pretty much gone. If there was any residue it will be washed clean by Bush's surge plan really requiring 35-48K troops and not the 20K he said they were sending.
 
Oh, you meant all the troops? Hahaha, silly Administration.
 
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			02-01-2007, 08:46 PM
			
			
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		 i don't think it is as bad as when Ross Perot said "you people"  though.. 
 
2008  is far enough away  for this to evaporate. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-03-2007, 12:38 PM
			
			
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		 Spence, like it or not Biden pigeon-holed Obama as a black man who is main stream.  Thats racist (closeted) all day long.  Just because he is a democrat (centrist) doesn't make it right.  What he said certainly wasn't as bad as some other far more ignorant people have said, but regardless its all the same. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-03-2007, 01:23 PM
			
			
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		 You're taking his comment out of context...he was talking about black presidentail candidates with broad appeal. 
 
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			02-03-2007, 09:43 PM
			
			
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		 No Spence, I understood the context of what he was saying and how he ment it.  His intentions were not bad by any means, but it doesn't mean he isn't a closeted racist.  What Biden said was lazy in manner and ill thought before he opened his yap.  To me that says he doesn't care very deeply if at all about Obama.  It should matter one way or the other about his skin color.  Throw Biden a life preserver he needs it. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-04-2007, 10:24 AM
			
			
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		 Thier is nothing knee-jerk with regard to my interpretation of what he said.  You would have to know me to think my reaction to or subjective interpretation of what Biden said is slanted, and you don't other than here.  What he said is textbook grouping in a backhanded backdoor manner.  He is just more articulate than an uneducated racist. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-04-2007, 10:40 AM
			
			
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		 Again, you're taking a sinlgle statement that many would argue is being taken out of context. 
 
You're saying his long track record on minority rights etc... isn't a better indicator of what he really believes? 
 
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