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Old 04-19-2007, 08:48 AM   #1
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Did you see the reporters interviewing the widow of one of the professors.......outside right after his Funeral, Give the woman a break, she just lost her husband.

I think more people need to go to the "Sean Penn" School of Interviewing Ethics.......and pop these a$$wipes upside the head.

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Old 04-19-2007, 08:58 AM   #2
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Backto RKBA for a second. There were 75 student firearms in lockup at Virginia Tech Police! God, if just a FEW of them were in the hands of students, what-if?!!!!

Dateline: April 19th, 2007 Washington Township NJ
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On behalf of the New Jersey Coalition for Self Defense, and all Americans, we grieve for the souls and families of the victims at Virginia Tech.

Many believe that now is not the time to discuss the failings of "gun control". We disagree. Now is the perfect time, when the fatal failure of the system is staring us in the face.

Americans are increasingly becoming conditioned to believe that our safety is someone else's responsibility. Call 911, find a dark closet to hide in, cover your head and pray that the first person opening the door and finding you there isn't the criminal.

On any given day, there are approximately 75 firearms in the campus lockup checked in by lawful owners, as mandated by Virginia Tech policy. One year ago, a bill was presented in the Virginia legislature to compel the university to allow those licensed owners to carry their sidearms with them to deal with just such a crime. Even one of those guns carried by a student or faculty would have ended this, or at least significantly minimized the carnage.

Those legislators who defeated this bill must be held to account today. They are the ones who insist that police are our protection. We challenge them to explain to the public where the police were this week, and how this result is better than allowing legally licensed gun owners whose firearms were in lockup to be ready to thwart evil.

This is just one more example of what we call the "Sarah Brady Success Story." Anti-gun elements in our nation have been pursuing their failed philosophy for over 40 years. Handgun Control Incorporated refuses to admit that despite four decades – two generations – of failed policy, that gun control is having the exact opposite effect they hope. Yet they will waste no time in the months to come insisting that we need yet more of the same failed policy.

We didn't learn our lesson at Columbine or Lancaster. Japan didn't learn its lesson at Osaka. Russia didn't learn it at Beslan. Germany didn’t learn it at Erfurt. Australia didn’t learn it at Port Arthur. Xerox didn't learn it at Meridien. The list goes on and on. With one exception. Israel learned the lesson firsthand when the PLO targeted primary schools. Their civilians – parents and teachers alike – patrolled the hallways with their sidearms on a voluntary basis, and the attacks stopped.

Americans have been systematically deceived by a slanted press and political movement on a mission. There is an inverse relationship between gun control and its intended result. If one is in an automobile skidding out of control, you turn away from the skid, not into it, to regain control. Likewise, we must, as a nation, turn away from gun control.

Firearms legislation needs to be normalized. Average citizens need to be ready to work in tandem with law enforcement to confront evil and stop it immediately. We need to understand that firearms will never disappear. They are not new technology. Mankind will never lose the recipe for gunpowder, and humans have been sending a projectile through a tube for over 500 years.

Gun control is job security for criminals and a death sentence for Americans.

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:04 AM   #3
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TDF that just par for the course these days. If she slugged a guy she'd be sued and he would probably file charges. There were three things about this coverage that have set me off (thanks for asking). The first is the rush to judgement on the first day where within hours of the event, prior to any statement by officials, the media are trying to assign blame etc.; the second was the constant identification of the shooter as Asian or Korean. Somewhat correct you could argue. But if it was me and I came over to the US at age 8 would they be saying an Irishman every 5 seconds. The guy lived here for 15 years. To me it is almost like they are pushing the foreign angle to push people's buttons even more. Lastly as we discussed above the release of the videos and pictures. I see mostly Fox and CNN so maybe the coverage was more balanced on the majors but somehow looking at what NBC has done I doubt it.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:10 AM   #4
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mosholu they were pushing the foreign angle to put a spotlight on federal gun laws.

non-u.s. citizens can possess firearms under certain circumstances. we have these excpetions because it wouldn't be possible for olympic shooting and similar events to be held here, etc.

the law is complicated, but it reads ... if you are a lawful resident alien with a clean background, you have the same gun rights as a law-abiding citizen.

note that a lawful resident is not the same as a person coming in with a student visa.

anyways, i'm sure there will be calls for closing this "loophole."

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:39 AM   #5
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Talking didnt see that...

haven't watched any of it...

Just movies ...

CNN via PC was more than enough

no slugging... no throwing ice from a drink... but
i betcha she could have whip creamed him....tho
that and his camera lens...

there should be patriotic whip cream in tri-color
(red,white,and blue tipped cans ) that would
be perfect for the job....
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:50 AM   #6
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funny that the MSM isn't reporting how disgusted folks are with the news outlets for putting that crap on the air.

all my co-workers want to throw a brick at the tv or computer screen. hard for them to agree on any one thing at any given time but they are unanimous on this one.

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Old 04-19-2007, 02:04 PM   #7
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non-u.s. citizens can possess firearms under certain circumstances. we have these excpetions because it wouldn't be possible for olympic shooting and similar events to be held here, etc.
He wasn't a foreigner though....

Xenophobia go!

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Old 04-19-2007, 02:13 PM   #8
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not sure i understand your point, likwid.

the shooter wasn't a u.s. citizen but at the same time we haven't really seen any palpable backlash against foreigners or foreign looking folks.

correct me if i'm wrong ?

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Seung Hui Cho, a permanent resident of the United States, a Korean national and a Virginia Tech student has been identified as the gunman in the shootings that left 33 people dead on the Virginia Tech campus Monday, ABC News has learned.

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Old 04-19-2007, 02:20 PM   #10
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yeah, so , i made that distinction already.

permanent residents can buy guns here.

visa holders can't.

a lot of permanent residents serve in the armed forces and pay taxes even though they can't vote.

so?

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:07 PM   #11
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Seung Hui Cho, a permanent resident of the United States, a Korean national and a Virginia Tech student has been identified as the gunman in the shootings that left 33 people dead on the Virginia Tech campus Monday, ABC News has learned.
The correct term is "PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIEN", not permanent resident. I know, I WAS one, until I was naturalized , thereby becoming a US Citizen. Either the source you copied that from got it wrong or it was deleted along the way, unless they did away with the dirty "alien" word already(enter sarchastic smilie here), which Im not aware of.

And I agree, the blood of every person that is killed by every copycat in the next couple months, will be on NBC's FILTHY hands. IF it happens I hope the execs at NBC go straight to hell.

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