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06-21-2007, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Pogie Net
Do any of you guys have em, use em'????
A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.
Sinking? Floating? Mesh size? Length, etc..
Thanks.
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06-21-2007, 09:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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This is from one of the best pogie cast netters I know: "I toss a 10' cracker castnet with a 1-1/8" mesh for the adults.
the larger mesh will let it sink faster.
I toss a cracker 10'er allso for the nuts with a 3/8" mesh size"
If I were buying nets I would go with his reccomendations. This guy is a charter captain and has to catch pogies for his clients to catch bass.
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06-21-2007, 02:01 PM
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Here one day - gone next!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Boston
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Hi Van,
Talk to either Frank or Mike from the MSBA.
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06-21-2007, 02:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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Van,
What MM said. I through 3 different nets but for pogies the 1-1/8" cracker is the best net for the money IMO. The next step up would be the calausa (same size) but it is another $100 or so.
get the cracker, I own several other cheap nets and they just plain suck compared to this net. Once you throw a cracker or calausa and watch it open and see the sinkrate you will never buy another net. You will waist a lot less time #^^^^&ing with these nets then the light cheapo ones. Ask you self one question...do you want to catch bait or do you want to get frustrated seeing the bait get away.
PS to throw a 10' in MA you need a commercial bait license. I would get it instead of buying the 8' net. (which technically is just over the 200 sq ft limit as well but they probably will nut bust your but
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06-21-2007, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Van,
What MM said. I through 3 different nets but for pogies the 1-1/8" cracker is the best net for the money IMO. The next step up would be the calausa (same size) but it is another $100 or so.
get the cracker, I own several other cheap nets and they just plain suck compared to this net. Once you throw a cracker or calausa and watch it open and see the sinkrate you will never buy another net. You will waist a lot less time #^^^^&ing with these nets then the light cheapo ones. Ask you self one question...do you want to catch bait or do you want to get frustrated seeing the bait get away.
PS to throw a 10' in MA you need a commercial bait license. I would get it instead of buying the 8' net. (which technically is just over the 200 sq ft limit as well but they probably will nut bust your but
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Actually around here they use flaoting or sinking gill nets, under a certain size no license is needed. I had not considered a throw net because they are not that thick (ususally)....
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06-21-2007, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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I am not sure about rec gill netting. There may be "limited entry permits" for this...again I am not sure, it may depend on the species too... call the DMF before buying a net to see if you can get a permit and get the latest regs.
The reason I say call is they the eviron police are pretty aggressive out this way when they see someone put a net in the water.
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06-21-2007, 05:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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I gave a 10' net a go a few times this spring.
Rarely were the schools of pogies tight enough to be net friendly. When they were it sure made for a full livewell, and in VERY short order.
Most days I felt more effective with 2 or 3 guys with snag hooks then one in the bow with a net.
The pogies are surprisingly skittish. Then again, no fish in RI other then surface feeding bluefin seems to have to deal with such run and gunning. You have to get fairly close, but often the pogies sound at that point.
The net does result in very nice healthy bait though. The snag hook takes it's toll on the bunker, depending where it was hit.
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06-21-2007, 06:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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[QUOTE=Van;501794]Do any of you guys have em, use em'????
A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.
"Valuable Info" Cost $$$
I hope you are planning on getting the required permits!!!
Also, Netting during daylight hrs is a long shot at best!
Last edited by Raider Ronnie; 06-21-2007 at 06:35 PM..
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LETS GO BRANDON
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06-21-2007, 08:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NorthShore
Posts: 65
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Pogie net
200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.
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06-21-2007, 08:51 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
Posts: 4,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nautibuoys
200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.
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It also = a cast net of 7'
8' net is .96 over the 200 sq Ft size
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06-21-2007, 10:11 PM
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Location: Quincy
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[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;502007]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Van
Do any of you guys have em, use em'????
A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.
"Valuable Info" Cost $$$
I hope you are planning on getting the required permits!!!
Also, Netting during daylight hrs is a long shot at best!
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200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.
What nautibuoys said. No permit required.
Plus.
I know someone who gets them any time of day !!!!
But agreed early AM is best, no problem for me as I'm only 5 minutes from my slip, and 5 minutes from a good area. 
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Things done at the last possible minute are done with the greatest possible information. Procrastination is, therefore, the most efficient means of doing things.
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06-22-2007, 05:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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[QUOTE=Van;502073]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
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200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.
What nautibuoys said. No permit required.
Plus.
I know someone who gets them any time of day !!!!
But agreed early AM is best, no problem for me as I'm only 5 minutes from my slip, and 5 minutes from a good area. 
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Anything less than 200 sq is pretty small and useless unless you get lucky and find pods of them.
And leave the netting to us pros!
Last edited by TheSpecialist; 06-22-2007 at 09:29 PM..
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LETS GO BRANDON
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06-22-2007, 06:17 AM
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Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...
Thanks,
John
Last edited by JohnR; 06-22-2007 at 09:52 PM..
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06-22-2007, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
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We were getting them yesterday in the middle of the day with a cast net. My friend who has one gets them all the time in the middle of the day and if you know were they are you will find them so i'm not sure what your talking about...
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06-22-2007, 08:01 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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Don't mind Ronnie Van, if you were a Raiders fan in Patriot Nation you'd be bitter too.
The best thing I've heard is "gillnetting sucks on a good day" .
How do you become a pro anyway?
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06-22-2007, 10:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lincoln, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishsmith
How do you become a pro anyway?
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I think the designation is referred to as "master baiter" 
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Best regards,
Roger
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06-22-2007, 11:51 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger
I think the designation is referred to as "master baiter" 
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Really, well I'm a pro then 
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06-22-2007, 12:18 PM
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No Trolling allowed
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Kingstown, RI
Posts: 414
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Casting Net
I have been VERY unsuccessful using a casting net. For 2 years I used a cheap one and had success less than 20% of the time. Over this winter I did some research and purchased a Calusa casting net, 1.5#'s of lead/ft. 1" Diameter mesh. I still suck. I am able to throw it and it opens fairly well, however, the most I catch is weed.
I can snag several pogies in the same time it takes me to prep the net, throw, let it sink and retreive it. I would like to have bait that is not wounded from a trebble.
Now I have a $200.00+ net that frustrates me too no end.
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1 @ 32 Pledge. Our beloved Striped Bass are in trouble AGAIN.
I fished through the lean years and don't want to live through another collapse of the stock.
2 fish @ 28" is ridiculous.
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06-22-2007, 12:28 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Does anyone know the cast net regs in RI?
What is the best all around size to get (radius and mesh size) for Adult and peanut Bunker?
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06-22-2007, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...
Thanks,
John
Last edited by JohnR; 06-22-2007 at 09:52 PM..
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LETS GO BRANDON
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06-22-2007, 09:14 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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 A wee bit! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-22-2007, 09:21 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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Guys pm's would be better for this.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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06-22-2007, 09:38 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...
Thanks,
John
Last edited by JohnR; 06-22-2007 at 09:53 PM..
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06-22-2007, 09:53 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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This thread ain't happening. If there is bad blood, keep it off the board.
Thread closed.
Thanks,
John
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