I don't understand

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by derf

face it , if the plover was off the 'endangered ' list what excuse would there be to shut the beaches down ???



just my 2cents ...
derf

What excuse? I bet it won't take them long to find one for sure , but we should get the funding stopped that keeps the plover on the list so some other species can enjoy that title for a while.
It's worth a try.


Do you have a better understanding now Bob?

[derf]

What excuse? I bet it won't take them long to find one for sure

got that right . they already have a few lined up to take their place down there .... they have closed the beach this year for the American Oystercatcher; that was in april of this year . they are back trying to get the area designated "Wintering Piping Plover Critical Habitat”
....plus theses are in the wings just waiting for a reason to be used (copied from the "Interim Protected Species Management Strategy"

The Seashore is required by Section 7 of the Endangered Species Act (ESA) to consult with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on actions that may affect Threatened and Endangered species. Six species protected under the ESA are found on park lands including the Piping Plover, Loggerhead Sea Turtle, Green Sea Turtle, Leatherback Sea Turtle, Hawksbill Sea Turtle, and one plant, the Seabeach Amaranth. See "Links" section for more information on these species. Other species are protected under other laws and Executive Orders, including the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and NPS regulations. This Interim Strategy will serve as a basis for initiating consultation with the Fish and Wildlife Service. See the "Links" and "Documents" sections for more information on these laws and regulations.

[Slipknot]

thanks derf, I guess

what kills me is the gov. allows destruction of wetlands or took so long to slow that yet they constantly feel offroad driving on sandy beaches does harm to the enviroment wtf? Wetlands are way more important, without them pollution just gets worse I don't get it, people have their priorities whacked.

I belong to the Rainforest action network but I would never think of donating anything to the audobaun groups


What group out there is gonna look out for us the people?

well there's always fresh water fishing

[derf]

thanks derf, I guess

yea that the way i feel sometimes ..
just like shoveling sand against the tide ...

What group out there is gonna look out for us the people?

well , i don't / can't keep up with what is going on up there ....
but i do try the best i can to keep up with what is going on down at hatteras ..
down there the it's the NCBBA , OBPA ,CHPA, CHAC ,the tackle shops fighting for their livelihood, and a lot of the 'locals'. the internet has become a major weapon in the fight there ...
at Assateague national park (in Md) it is the AMSA .
almost all of the 'buggy' clubs belong to and support the UMS ..
the battle is on the whole coast .....it seems we win one battle and another one pops up .
my time is limited , so are my funds , but it seems there is always someone you can e-mail to express your opinions
ps i hate freshwater for fishin'.....just ain't the same
derf

[Slipknot]

I was being facetious
I mean us the human beings people

I hope your beaches stay open as much as possible