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06-11-2007, 10:39 AM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
3oz snag hook to the head.
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06-11-2007, 10:55 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Not due to violence, but a guy fishing from shore in LI was just hauled out of Great South Bay, dead. His wife reported him missing on saturday when he didn't come home. Se be careful even when there's no obvious threats!
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06-11-2007, 11:19 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Newport, RI
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Just got an update on all this. A buddy of mine was there when it went down.
Sounds like it was just a squabble between high school kids and NOT a fisherman that was under attack.
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06-11-2007, 11:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
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That changes EVERYTHING! Many high school kids like to fight so let this be a lesson to them. Thats all that had to be said in this case lol. Either way, stay safe out there guys and try to buddy up whenever possible. Tight lines.
Alex
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06-11-2007, 11:35 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooper
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1266 w/ a calcutta conquest.
100mph sidearm. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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06-11-2007, 11:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
1266 w/ a calcutta conquest.
100mph sidearm. 
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I'd still rather have 11 silver tips 
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06-11-2007, 11:52 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC
I'd still rather have 11 silver tips 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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06-11-2007, 11:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Shore
Posts: 453
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Not due to violence, but a guy fishing from shore in LI was just hauled out of Great South Bay, dead. His wife reported him missing on saturday when he didn't come home. Se be careful even when there's no obvious threats!
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When I was stationed at Castle Hill back in '87'or '88 a guy went missing, his car was found along with some gear on the rocks but there was no sign of him. About a week goes by and he was found by a couple of divers at the mouth of the Castle Hill cove. I'll never forget pulling him out of the water- it was awful. I guess the conclusion was that he slipped and hit his head.
I don't know if anyone here remembers this or knew the guy, but it must have been hell for his family
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06-11-2007, 11:52 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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If your going to carry near salt water
make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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06-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
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The army surplus stores probably carry hand grenades which are replicas or the real thing but not loaded. If they do carry a couple, pull the pin and threaten the thugs. If anything it would hurt more then a rock if thrown to the head.
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06-11-2007, 01:20 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.
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Where did you come up with bit of misinformation?
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06-11-2007, 01:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.
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06-11-2007, 01:35 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Where did you come up with bit of misinformation?
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The body is a polymer and the rifling in the barrel isn't a right angle but more of a rounded fluting
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06-11-2007, 01:46 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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The barrel is steel and it has rifling, otherwise you wouldn't be able ti hit the broad side of a barn with it. Striates the bullet just like any other gun. Most guns do not have 90 degree rifling.
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06-11-2007, 01:48 PM
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Boston Anglah
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
Posts: 3,322
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Does Aquaskinz make a belt clip for it 
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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06-11-2007, 01:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
The barrel is steel and it has rifling, otherwise you wouldn't be able ti hit the broad side of a barn with it. Striates the bullet just like any other gun. Most guns do not have 90 degree rifling.
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Yes the barrel has rifleing but not your typical rifleing. Another reason why Glocks don't like straight lead. Rounds should be jacketed or copper coated in the least.
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06-11-2007, 02:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 297
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Only bad thing about a knife is that if there are 6 guys it could definitly be used on you. I like a gun or pepper spray myself. Gun sounds good 
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06-11-2007, 02:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 67
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I like a 14 lb bluefish...held by the tail with my right hand and supporting the head with my left. A few jabs with his nose to the lower mid-section of the aggressor, and I'm outta there!!
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06-11-2007, 03:35 PM
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Wipe My Bottom
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,911
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
A sidearm while fishing...are you guys n#^^^^^&g futs?
If anything carry pepper spray, anything else isn't going to be worth the legal hassle when you have to justify defending yourself.
-spence
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Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
What legal hassle (other than defending yourself against use of lethal force?) are you referring to?
Mass issues LTC in many cases and Rhode Island is SHALL-ISSUE for residents.
Anyways...

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06-11-2007, 04:10 PM
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Salt of the Earth
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Suburbia, RI
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boga grip.......i imagine they can crack people skulls just as well as they crush fish skulls.
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06-11-2007, 04:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Cambridge, MA
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A concealed firearm, although an excellent deterrent to any would-be robber(s), is a serious liability to any fishermen carrying it and considering the rarity of such events, are really not worth the bureaucratic hurdles and paperwork required for firearm licensing (at least up here in Massachusetts). If you are nuts about fishing like me and you are out lobbing those clams or pogie chunks to those linesided ladies in the earliest ours of the morning (also like myself), you better darn well know the area you are fishing. Scout it out, do some reconissance trips without your tackle before you even begin fishing. Note if there are teenage gangs loitering around those rip raps or boardwalks and then decide accordingly. After all this is said and done, and you find yourself out late at night and some suspicious person(s) appear, remember; they probably have not noticed you (yet). Stay light and mobile, minimize flashlight usage/ glowsticks/ other luminescence, this is a giveaway to all those fishing for things other than Striped Bass and Bluefish. As far as weapons are concerned - yes, indeed it maybe our best bet - but for many of us a gun is not always the most appealing option. Think small. A bat is good if you are confronted by one or two robbers, but it won't do much good if you find yourself in the company of robin hood and his not-so-merry men. The first thing to do if approached, is to assume control of the situation by feigning fear (dramatically) and hope things blow over smoothly, surely your life is not worth your empty wallet (it should be empty, because your not shoppin, your fishing). The good thing about knives and screwdrivers is that they are easily concealed and if things get physical you can use them with a fair degree of stealth - especially if they perceive you are already scared hence "unarmed". Additionally, if it is a group of them and you get jumped pretty good, those hooded adrenaline intoxicated gangbangers won't notice those screw driver punctures or knife wounds until they are in the getaway car and the leader passes out in the passenger seat. Once again, awareness coupled with a low profile saves lives. It helped my 155 lb, 18 year old cousin survive 4 years in prison.
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10-17-2007, 08:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 50
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Those kids have to be idiots attacking fishermen. Might as well attack a bunch of Marines. I always thought a great defense would be a big danny or reverse at the end of the rod; mine have needle-sharp hooks. I would love to set the hooks into some of those punks; the screams of pain would allow you to get away.
Gawd, Gooseberry sucks in so many way. I live right down the street from it; almost everytime I fish there I promise myself never again, but there I go again fishing there. Like two nights ago. Garbage all over the place, dog and human feces aong the paths, bad footing, shallow water, yahoos motoring along the causeway. The extreme tip is accessible at low tide, but almost suicidal if you let the tide comes in. And the fishing is nothing compared to Quonny, Narragansett, Jamestown, or Newport.
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10-18-2007, 09:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South Shore
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I carry a Glock G-27 every were I go off duty even fishing. As for all the talk about glocks, The frame is polymer but the slide and barrel is metal the hard-coat they use on the metal parts is real good and will hold up to saltwater (I have a buddy that takes a G-17 diving) The rifling on all glocks is called polygonal rifling, instead of the traditional lands and groves it has hills and valleys. But like someone else said you never take out your weapon unless you are ready mentally to use it, if you draw down on someone thinking its going to scare them and you will not have to use it you are wrong, lots of criminals are not afraid of a gun pointed at them and may even attempt to grab your gun. most important thing you can do is always create distance.
Left is standard rifling and right is polygonal

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Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
"The cure for everything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea" Isak Dinesen
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10-18-2007, 11:03 AM
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reelecstasy
Does Aquaskinz make a belt clip for it 
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lmao, not yet, but I guess they'll have to meet the growing demand....
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10-18-2007, 11:16 AM
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Philadelphia
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Any particular reaon this was revived? I'm glad to see that someone has payed attention to their James Bond movies and protected themselves from underwater hooligans.
I thought Glocks were made for women, children, and police departments who don't want to train people to shoot single actions. See also the death of 10mm.
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10-18-2007, 12:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South Shore
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Originally Posted by wheresmy50
Any particular reaon this was revived? I'm glad to see that someone has payed attention to their James Bond movies and protected themselves from underwater hooligans.
I thought Glocks were made for women, children, and police departments who don't want to train people to shoot single actions. See also the death of 10mm.
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The guy who takes it diving had his gear stolen by a group of 5 guys a few years ago (he lives down south and the meth heads will steel anything),it has nothing to do with bond. As for glocks being made for women, children, and police departments who don't want to train people to shoot single actions. I think you can add and guys who want there pistol to go bang every time they pull the trigger, I train ALL the time I own quite a few handguns including 5 1911's a bunch of sigs and 4 glocks, 1911's are great but I have had them not run 100% in classes and to me even one FTF is not acceptable in a firearm that you plan on using for self defence. I have never had a FTF in any of my glocks with thousands of rounds and hard use.
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Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
"The cure for everything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea" Isak Dinesen
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10-18-2007, 12:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Philadelphia
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No offense - just stirring the pot a little.
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10-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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so should I get a glock or what???
actually, most of the areas I fish are pretty safe, in the height of the summer there can be some punks around drinking, but if I see that I just keep driving and hit another spot.
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10-18-2007, 01:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: in a structure with a roof
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hooper is right on . you better be ready . I have been robbed at gun point 2 times and shot at once ( accidentally ) . The guy who shot next to me was a basket case . He wasnt ready mentally . the 2 times I was robbed they wernt ready mentally either but I if I pulled my pistol who knows if they would have known they now have to go through with it .
I dont carry for many reasons but 1 thought is I dont want have to clean it religeously and if I dont the one time really I need it and it wont fire . oops bad move . I dont think I would have any problem shooting to save my life or someone elses but I dont want to have to find out .
I fish alone all the time mostly I carry a fishing rod with many lures that can be swung to cause some damage , maybe enough to get them to back off . If not then oh well .
as far as the guy that this happened to he may have been ambushed by them . and had no time to react . I dont know wasnt there . I hope all is well with him and they are put in jail . take my stuff but do ya really have to hurt me ?
too many asswipes
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10-18-2007, 02:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 92
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ss minnow
All I have to say is that I like my little boat even more.....
I still think I need a bigger boat (in case my wife is watching this thread. 
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