Socialism at it's best--

[GonnaCatchABig1]

actually..l you did use indians inccorectly. since indians are technically from the indonesian area and have nothing to do with the middle east. the correct enemy would be arabians/plastinians (what ever those are since the jews (sorry for such a racist sounding remark but "jewish people" doesnt right either) claim they never existed).

ADD ON: i am one of the most patriotic people around and i am finding really hard to be so lately. even for my friends over seas. but how can we compete with this? (granted there is some north korean in there but it's all the same) they out number us and are highly organized. to the extent of the nazi party. which gave us and the rest of the word a run for our money. we are already stretched to thin to deal with unorganized militia. imagine facing a well trained organized army willing to fight to the death?! unless ever civilian arms themselves and fights to the death should china invade we are pretty well screwed. you claim editing but this is reality. korea isnt far behind and has nukes. which they will use pre-emptive out of hatred.


that one wasnt even the one i wanted.. it was to focused on infantry. and even for me seemed a bit a edited to appear larger.. hear are the real concerns..

[GonnaCatchABig1]

now what really scares me is the things we dont see. just like with our weapons.

now granted you cant get a good scale fo the size of their armies. the only thing truly driving their economy is military build up. and should war occur, it would only be because russia was involved. imagine that well of an organized/trained army. supported uninterrupted by russia. on top of fighting well trained russian troops. trying to keep iran from taking over the middle east, (which will eventually allow them to enter the war later on. with more russian backing. they are an industrial country after all). it can't be done.

and honestly i am surprised it has taken as long as it has to set it in motion.

the only way to really cut russia off from chin and vice versa would be nuclear conflict. which with north korea on edge would instantly spark armageddon.

i dont think people truly understand the severity on whats going on. they stay in their shells, trying to convince them selves prevention will work. sure it may avoid armageddon. but as far as ground and air based standard conventional/tactical warfare is concerned we have never been more at risk.

then you have to ask yourselves how far would the world leaders go in teh name of honor/pride? would wiping out life on the planet be better than losing? with this much hatred involved and the years of built up angst i wouldn't be surprised.

these smaller holy wars have paved the way to political turmoil. and its all up to bush to please russia..

so long world.

[fishpoopoo]

that's all fine and good.

i'm not terribly worried about China. they have what, 20% of the world's population and 10% of the farmland?

how are they gonna feed their troops if they get no food imports?

there's not enough dogs in all the no-kill shelters in the entire world that could accommodate the hungry mouths in the PLA for even a day.

[fishpoopoo]

[fishpoopoo]

[GonnaCatchABig1]

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

that's all fine and good.

i'm not terribly worried about China. they have what, 20% of the world's population and 10% of the farmland?

how are they gonna feed their troops if they get no food imports?

there's not enough dogs in all the no-kill shelters in the entire world that could accommodate the hungry mouths in the PLA for even a day.

i couldnt tell if that was sarcasm. since we alll know what asians can do in the name of honor. nothing short of a nuke stops them. but that was when they didn't have nukes backing em up. plus ya gotta remember, californians will roll right over. giving them all those happy californian cows. which make the best cheese. (according to the commercials) new mexico and arizona might be tough, what with all the gun nuts. but they just dont have the numbers. i say they make it half way across the country before hitting the east coaster/southern road block. aka our last stand. just not enough people between cali and kansas. nor time to set up further west than that. unless canada and mexico rushed to our defense... ya know that canadian naval blockade.. and those mexcan storm troopers not dying to get out of unsanitary desert conditions. we really have some poor buffers. considering canada would pulled to europe to cover the eastern fronts in the name of england. we wouldnt really hafta concern ourselve till late with the eastern front. but all thats seperating our nation from china is the ocean and california. and well.. hippies dont hold an automatic assault rifle to well. especially since they are commie sympathizers. i feel bad for all the die hard between here and there but they would be out numbered at least two to one.

our only option pull everything out of the middle east. which be counter productive and give iran/russia complete control of the middle east. russia may even creep into the chezck and back into pre ww1/2 territories. cutting us off from oil for out armored divisions and ships. completely shutting down the "freedom fighters" resistance. i would be scattered militia fighting of the commies. and since gun control law prevent us from arming ourselves to the teeth.. not much we can do. unless you have some military buddies who snuck "some things" back.

i would join if i could get medical clearance but i cant. i feel no fight is more important than the "cold war". but i am put on the side lines. we will see who is crazy for wanting .50's on ever corner of their establishment.



of course bush might actually not piss of russia (doubtful since two years ago you could see putin pissed at press conference) and pull something that in no way resembles how he completely insulted north korea's attempt at peace talks.

[GonnaCatchABig1]

the above post.. meh.. kinda found the cat one hard to watch. im a cat lover. but it's no different then chicken, turkey or cow.

if some one messed with MY cat how ever. shotgun blast to the face. assuming i could find a shot to blast in their face. if they are bred for food.. so be it.

still what they eat, make no difference. minute men ate british dogs during the revolutionary war.. it's good eating so i hear. meat is meat. aand meat is food. and food is food. and it has been that way since the dawn of time.

[fishpoopoo]

1) we have a fairly large ocean separating us from china. unless they're all good swimmers, that's a huge supply line to maintain for a land-based assault. now, we know they've more or less infiltrated san francisco and hongcouver, but ...

2) we have them by the balls, as it were. they're sitting on so much funny u.s. paper money (financing our current account and budget deficits) that all we have to do is stop paying interest on u.s. treasuries and they won't be so rich anymore. isn't it hysterical that china is financing our military budget and wartime spending?

3) they'd starve. americans are fiercely protective of their pets.

4) gun nuts are good. it was a harvard-schooled japanese admiral who said invasion of the mainland u.s. (right before pearl harbor) would be unwise, because "there is a rifle behind every blade of grass."

[GonnaCatchABig1]

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

1) we have a fairly large ocean separating us from china. unless they're all good swimmers, that's a huge supply line to maintain for a land-based assault. now, we know they've more or less infiltrated san francisco and hongcouver, but ...

it's not that big. for china yes. for russia/china no. (russia/chine to alaska and then down) turn hawaii into a depot, with half of our stuff watching russian subs and spread out in the gulf not much in the way.

i know american subs have quite a fire power cability. (and our carries have the fire power of an entire fleet) but we dont know what china has. just like how japan kept underground airfields. simple tricks often fool the smartest minds.. if 5 yr olds can get a riddle that geniuses cant solve then the chinese can hide things too.

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

2) we have them by the balls, as it were. they're sitting on so much funny u.s. paper money (financing our current account and budget deficits) that all we have to do is stop paying interest on u.s. treasuries and they won't be so rich anymore. isn't it hysterical that china is financing our military budget and wartime spending?

yeah if they successfully invaded, they wouldn't need to be worried. they'd have tactical position. in fact, once we are gone. the americas are theirs. what south american country would resist? they need room to expand. and russia would sacrifice the americas to take europe and have us out of the way. korea and iran are pawns. i ran might get africa for a while and korea might geting the indonesia area.
but they are both to small to profit in the long run. they would be a distraction to keep the allies spread out.
AND they wouldnt be funding anyone.

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

3) they'd starve. americans are fiercely protective of their pets.

Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

4) gun nuts are good. it was a harvard-schooled japanese admiral who said invasion of the mainland u.s. (right before pearl harbor) would be unwise, because "there is a rifle behind every blade of grass."

you forget at the time AMERICA WAS AMERICA!! kids played soldier in the street in large groups! parents allowed toy guns! they taught their kids the home land was moe important then anything else! they taught the ways of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
WE ARE ANYTHING BUT RIGHT NOW!!
we are more like the un-united states of who knows what continent! we've got immigrants who didnt legally bother to become citizens who would high tail it in a war. we arent allowed to arm ourselves anymore, for fear of the ""ghetto"" folk violating every sacred law in this country. (aka cop killing) we cant control our own peoples hatred of one another during wars. we fear other americans more than our enemies. most us dont even know who the enemy is anymore.
there is a serious overtone of oppression causing uprising, as opposed to ww2 when here was a sense of growing freedom for all.

i my self am convinced th biggest enemy is our rulers. they restrict our abilities to defend our homes. ya know what i got in the mail the other day? despite my failed physicals (shows how much they keep tabs) i got a marines recruitment book. ya wanna know what the big hook was these days?! A FREE T-SHIRT!! thats right not the pride of risking your life to save our country. not the pride of serving our country. not the benfits you or your family would receive. but a free T-SHIRT!!! now any decent american wouldnt need the t shirt or anything else.. but that is pretty freakin weak. basically states "die for you country and this shirt!"

and i hate to dis the country but this is how its been since nam. ww2 soldiers were heroes to this country.MAJOR national parades were thrown for those that came home alive. now your lucky if your town decides you are worthy of a welcome home. i have seen many go over and come back. with barely anything more than a party thrown by close friends and family.

the gov treats or troops like crap. we treat our troops like crap. most people dont even think what we are doing is right. me included. i can not support sending my fiends to die for political maneuvering.

how a country in that state is supposed to defend it self against a nation who is fully behind it's cause i dont know.

the only thing i can campare it too as bad as it it is. is yankees vs sox in 2004. the yankees being america and the sox begin every one else.
the yankees felt and easy win and security with not much passion mean while the sox felt 86 years of repression at their hands. and felt that they had an entire ""nation"" resting on their shoulders. fighting for people who CARED about if they won or not. and look how that turned out.

i know it horrible to compare a sport to war. but the determination and factors of trust love and loyalty all combine into the same momentum.

ok how about rocky 4. we can all relate to the determination and heart of rocky.

thats what we are up against!

and if you dont have that burning desire to win, you've already lost. and i fear we are losing that desire. we no longer have the eye of the tiger. as much as i wish we did. we dont. we let all of our selfish personal quarrels get in the way. we are a nation divided and a divided nation falls.

[fishpoopoo]

well, you know, china isn't exactly immune to the same types of social ills our society has.

* widening gap between urban middle class and rural poor

* rampant pollution tied to inefficient industrial production

* government corruption

some are unique to china:

* the aborting of females in a society that prizes male heirs. the country will be full of homos or ronery guys getting mail order brides from vietnam. dont' laugh - it's already happening!

* some chinese are picking up the petty bourgeois habit of keeping dogs as pets instead of eating them

all this is magnified by the sheer size of the country.

to wit, their strength (size and numbers) is also their weakness.