Fall Run, Late October & A Full Moon - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

eelman · 10-24-2007, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma

I could be dead wrong, but the way this Fall run has gone, I believe that the fish that are North will go by on the outside. P-Town to Cutty to Block to Montauk. Or the Canal to Buzzards Bay to the Elizabeths maybe a few strays in Westport and Sakonnet and then to Montauk.
Here's another crazy idea. This may be the first years in many that the Block lights up on the full moon in Oct and the new moon in November.

I think your right on paul...What people fail to realize is that those fish on the North shore ...are not fish that end up in Rhody waters, they are Mostly made up of Chesapeake strain bass which summer on the outer cape and along up the north shore, they also leave the same way...those are fish that also end up at block island so this could be a great year out there...

Most of rhodys fish are Hudson river strain, which summer around the elizabeths..westport etc...Its those fish that come by the inshore waters of rhody...But then again no one knows...

If I were still in the surf, the place I would go this weekend is GOOSEBERRY....Its always been a real good spot on or near Halloween...after that all Napatree

Other places I would be concentrating on right now is Woods hole, Knobska, The knob, or if you can get a little row boat and head for the little Island just off of Knobska...There are some good bass there as of late last week anyway....Al those canal fish end up out there..

But what do I know, I dont fish the surf...........

JFigliuolo · 10-24-2007, 07:12 AM

C'mon Bill... lighten up on the spot talk.

Back Beach · 10-24-2007, 07:53 AM

Still plenty of good fish around Mass. Its slowed a bit from last week, but still very good.Had seven fish the last two nights 25-34# from shore. Cloudy tonight with a light wind should make for a good backdrop of conditions to hit the surf.

Still hunting the one I dropped last week.

bart · 10-24-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

Still plenty of good fish around Mass. Its slowed a bit from last week, but still very good.Had seven fish the last two nights 25-34# from shore. Cloudy tonight with a light wind should make for a good backdrop of conditions to hit the surf.

Still hunting the one I dropped last week.

it never ends. oh the humanity!

eelman · 10-24-2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

C'mon Bill... lighten up on the spot talk.

No, you lighten up, I can suggest anything I want, this spot stuff is still going on?? gimmie a break...Halloween, gooseberry ...equels Large bass..

My best fall surf fishing in rhody was always At napatree the first two weeks of November, pay particular attenton around the 8th to 12th of the month..It should be great this year with a new moon and falling water..Its especially good after a southeast blow that goes northwest...Early in November I have cleaned house at Central beach, huge fish but the conditions have to be right..its only suggestions from past experiances

DZ · 10-24-2007, 08:26 AM

Ah!, migration talk. When’s it going to happen? Where are they coming from? What effect will the moon have? Are they Hudson River bass, Chesapeake bass, Thames River bass? (Last time I asked a bass where it came from it didn’t answer me and those of you who know me know I talk to them a lot – many times they’re the only company I want). Much speculation here – what you have is lot’s of “theories”, speculation or guesses which have been passed on for generations through gossip on the beach, books, and now the internet. (Another example would be bass “stunning” prey with a whack of their tail - how many times have I heard that one.) There is no concrete scientific evidence on "specific" migration routes. One theory is the fish go up the coast or down the coast because that is how we see schools of fish actively feeding on the beach. Another theory is that they “come in” to the beach rather than follow the coastline. Only the bass “know”.

I’ve also wondered about these questions – I even did some research on ALS tag returns to see if I could find out where bass come from and where they go. No pattern at all. Some Hudson River fish go to Maine, and some go to Jersey. Some Chesapeake fish are caught in the Hudson River. Don’t overanalyze this topic – just get out and cast. One thing is almost for sure – you’ll find them where their food is.
DZ

RIROCKHOUND · 10-24-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ

Ah!, migration talk. When’s it going to happen? Where are they coming from? What effect will the moon have? Are they Hudson River bass, Chesapeake bass, Thames River bass? (Last time I asked a bass where it came from it didn’t answer me and those of you who know me know I talk to them a lot – many times they’re the only company I want). Much speculation here – what you have is lot’s of “theories”, speculation or guesses which have been passed on for generations through gossip on the beach, books, and now the internet. (Another example would be bass “stunning” prey with a whack of their tail - how many times have I heard that one.) There is no concrete scientific evidence on "specific" migration routes. One theory is the fish go up the coast or down the coast because that is how we see schools of fish actively feeding on the beach. Another theory is that they “come in” to the beach rather than follow the coastline. Only the bass “know”.

I’ve also wondered about these questions – I even did some research on ALS tag returns to see if I could find out where bass come from and where they go. No pattern at all. Some Hudson River fish go to Maine, and some go to Jersey. Some Chesapeake fish are caught in the Hudson River. Don’t overanalyze this topic – just get out and cast. One thing is almost for sure – you’ll find them where their food is.
DZ

Well said DZ...
Glad I'm not the only one who talks to the fish!

Even when I'm not alone (ask JoeP). Bad habit, telling them calm down like they are puppies

JFigliuolo · 10-24-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

No, you lighten up, I can suggest anything I want, this spot stuff is still going on?? gimmie a break...Halloween, gooseberry ...equels Large bass..

My best fall surf fishing in rhody was always At napatree the first two weeks of November, pay particular attenton around the 8th to 12th of the month..It should be great this year with a new moon and falling water..Its especially good after a southeast blow that goes northwest...Early in November I have cleaned house at Central beach, huge fish but the conditions have to be right..its only suggestions from past experiances

nice maturity level...

eelman · 10-24-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

nice maturity level...

Oh Man....whatever

Anyone who wants the inside scoop on any fall hotspot in rhody can send me a Pm and I will help you out all I can...

This stuff is getting crazy

AQcually email is better drummer1@cox.net

JFigliuolo · 10-24-2007, 08:35 AM

taken to PM...

eelman · 10-24-2007, 08:49 AM

Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..but more than a few things happened this year that puts things in perspective..you all know what they are...life is to short..I want to see people succed..I do not have a son or anyone else to pass along what I have learned in the surf to...I also realize that the reason most wont tell you is that they want to remain "on top" I was there at one point also, I know, its not that giving up the spot in and of itself is the problem...the truth is the fear that someone elses eel will in that water will land bigger and better than you...it happens, its competition all the way....there is a point to the crowd factor but still, when someone asks me nicely now I tell them, want to se the catch a nice fish...it comes with age I guess, the loss of friends, the maturity to realize its only a fish and yes to be honest a change I have made from surf to boat, I learned alot in the surf, if I can help a young guy who has the stamina and will power to stomp the suds all night...I dont mind pointing them in the right direction...

And I have done the same thiong in the boat also...But whats funny is that if you know where I fished in the surf then you know where I am boat fishing , same places just from the other side....Its only a fish...I have had my share without a doubt...after a 50 and a 60 this year..I am blesed (or cursed).I just dont care anymore and I dont need to...I am not "hunting" anything anymore, just fishing for the pure love of the sport.