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12-10-2007, 08:52 PM
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Workplace rules????
Our employee handbook doesnt specify if making out your xmas cards while your on the clock is acceptable or not. What do you guys think?
I think its clear about the online shopping, 45 minute personal phone calls and LONG lunches though......  
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12-10-2007, 10:09 PM
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I think it's acceptable as long as you give them credit for the company stamps that you are using. 
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12-11-2007, 12:21 AM
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If you are hired to work for someone you should do just that. They pay you to do their work, not your stuff. 
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12-11-2007, 01:04 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
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Jenn,
I believe if you check the very last page of the hand book it CLEARLY states that you can do just about anything you like while on company time as long as you don't get caught.
Unfortunately, most companys remove the very last page so that we, as employees cannot take advantage of those opportunitys, but just know that they exist and are there for you at any time.
I used to take smoke breaks outside with the people that smoked. This one time, a manager came out and asked what I was doing.....I said, "taking a smoke break"....he said, "but you don't smoke!!! Get back inside!!".....so I had to start smoking in order to get that extra break. Now I'm sue-ing the company for my addiction. ...See...you can't lose when you use the "Force" against them.
gone fishin must be a business owner, disregard his remarks....he probably ripped that page out of his hand book too.
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12-11-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gone fishin
If you are hired to work for someone you should do just that. They pay you to do their work, not your stuff. 
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I'll second that sentiment......They pay you for 40 hours and that is what you should give them.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-11-2007, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenn
Our employee handbook doesnt specify if making out your xmas cards while your on the clock is acceptable or not. What do you guys think?
I think its clear about the online shopping, 45 minute personal phone calls and LONG lunches though......  
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What does it say about office love triangles or sharing online pornsite downloads?   
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Why even try.........
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12-11-2007, 09:15 AM
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Hope the question was meant as a joke. 
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12-11-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I'll second that sentiment......They pay you for 40 hours and that is what you should give them.
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Wish i lived on the planet with 40 hour work weeks. 
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12-11-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bloocrab
Jenn,
I believe if you check the very last page of the hand book it CLEARLY states that you can do just that they exist and are there for you at any............................................... .................................................. ............................. them.
gone fishin must be a business owner, disregard his remarks....he probably ripped that page out of his hand book too.
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I like the way you think.
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12-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Canal Junkie
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I know that feeling. Half of our department smokes.. Every 90 mins or so they are out there for 10-15 mins..
and I get looks for walking to dunkin donuts occasionally to grab a coffee (generally back in 10 mins)... AND I usually work thru lunch..
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Originally Posted by bloocrab
Jenn,
I believe if you check the very last page of the hand book it CLEARLY states that you can do just about anything you like while on company time as long as you don't get caught.
Unfortunately, most companys remove the very last page so that we, as employees cannot take advantage of those opportunitys, but just know that they exist and are there for you at any time.
I used to take smoke breaks outside with the people that smoked. This one time, a manager came out and asked what I was doing.....I said, "taking a smoke break"....he said, "but you don't smoke!!! Get back inside!!".....so I had to start smoking in order to get that extra break. Now I'm sue-ing the company for my addiction. ...See...you can't lose when you use the "Force" against them.
gone fishin must be a business owner, disregard his remarks....he probably ripped that page out of his hand book too.
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aim: SaltedBrian
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12-11-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eastendlu
Wish i lived on the planet with 40 hour work weeks. 
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Yeah, I gotta agree with that one too....50 hours is a short week for me
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-11-2007, 02:35 PM
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No Shorts On
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eastendlu
Wish i lived on the planet with 40 hour work weeks. 
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Where do they have 40 hour workweeks?
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Bob Thomas
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12-11-2007, 03:12 PM
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Keep The Change
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Don't worry about doing personal work on company time, someone else will take care of what you are supposed to be doing. Most somewhat skilled workers only cost their employers about $0.50/minute pay and benefits.
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“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
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12-11-2007, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eastendlu
Wish i lived on the planet with 40 hour work weeks. 
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lu- when you find it please let me know.....
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12-11-2007, 04:44 PM
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I guess you could take the position that "if you cant show me a rule against it, I'll keep on doing it". But then again they could take the position that "you're an employee at will and you don't work here anymore". 
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
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12-11-2007, 05:13 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
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It's actually compensation for all the times you think about work during your "Off-time".
How many times have you gone home for the night....and while at home, you figure out a problem that you left behind at work???? How do you get paid for that time???
Here enters the Christmas Card writing!! ....  ....
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12-11-2007, 05:17 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Well if you are working under my supervison you will not smoke unless at lunch or coffee break, you will be there at least 5 minutes early and not clean up until 15 minutes before it is time to leave, if the company makes money we make money. Oh and the biggest thing that doesn't happen is personal cell phone calls the most waste of company time.
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12-11-2007, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenn
Our employee handbook doesnt specify if making out your xmas cards while your on the clock is acceptable or not. What do you guys think?
I think its clear about the online shopping, 45 minute personal phone calls and LONG lunches though......  
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12-11-2007, 06:28 PM
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Its my company and i make the rules. I never work on sunday (worked very late sat and very early monday) to many times to count. never more than 24 hours in one day. have worked 32 hours straight though. no insurance, no vacations. check internet, make calls, visit the john while machine is running. oh yea and watch grand son every day, do honey do's for single cousin or neibors(today was replumb 10 feet of her gas line). since i work from home i must not work....... I HATE MY JOB/BOSS
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12-11-2007, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Well if you are working under my supervison you will not smoke unless at lunch or coffee break, you will be there at least 5 minutes early and not clean up until 15 minutes before it is time to leave, if the company makes money we make money. Oh and the biggest thing that doesn't happen is personal cell phone calls the most waste of company time.
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Wow! what a hard ass. I'm glad I retired. 
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12-11-2007, 08:19 PM
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thanks for the laughs....I really needed it.
I dont have a problem with the little "here and there" kind of things but someone has definately been pushing the envelope at work/////and now literally with the christmas card thing. I would say at least half the day is spent online, on personal calls ...making out cards or flipping through sales flyers. There is WAY more to the story than I can get into here but thanks for letting me vent!
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Simplify.......
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12-11-2007, 08:22 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Originally Posted by thortum
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I have a budget meeting every other week, and if the job I am running doesn't come in under budget it looks bad for me and will reflect in my review. the other thing is we get profit shearing so the more money the company makes the bigger bonus checks we get. and kids these days if you give them an inch they will take it all. the work ethic these days is shameful.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
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12-11-2007, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Well if you are working under my supervison you will not smoke unless at lunch or coffee break, you will be there at least 5 minutes early and not clean up until 15 minutes before it is time to leave, if the company makes money we make money. Oh and the biggest thing that doesn't happen is personal cell phone calls the most waste of company time.
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I agree with you Bob!
Not many self motivated people today !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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12-11-2007, 10:13 PM
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Glad to be of service Jenn! 
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
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12-12-2007, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
I have a budget meeting every other week, and if the job I am running doesn't come in under budget it looks bad for me and will reflect in my review. the other thing is we get profit shearing so the more money the company makes the bigger bonus checks we get. and kids these days if you give them an inch they will take it all. the work ethic these days is shameful.
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Just pulling your leg Bob. 
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12-12-2007, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenn
thanks for the laughs....I really needed it.
I dont have a problem with the little "here and there" kind of things but someone has definately been pushing the envelope at work/////and now literally with the christmas card thing. I would say at least half the day is spent online, on personal calls ...making out cards or flipping through sales flyers. There is WAY more to the story than I can get into here but thanks for letting me vent!
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Oh! I thought that you were the employee. You are the employer!!! I take it all back. FIRE THE S.O.B.  [but not until AFTER Christmas] All kidding aside-just let the person know that your P.Od. and give him [her] a warning. Nothing like being up front with people. 
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12-12-2007, 10:18 AM
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Stuck In Reality
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I also take the smoke break with smokers sometimes. Bob, can I come work with you.
Ps. I am at work now.
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12-12-2007, 01:01 PM
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Old Guy
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Originally Posted by tynan19
I also take the smoke break with smokers sometimes. Bob, can I come work with you.
Ps. I am at work now.
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Fishing again?
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12-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
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....umm, yeah....I'm with STOO ..........
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Oh! I thought that you were the employee
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 ....Jenn!!!....so it was YOU who ripped out the last page huh?
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12-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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wow, now you guys are REALLY making me laugh!!!
I am not the employer....actually the accused is the person one step ahead of me in ranks.....and that person is about 50...so the "kids these days" comment doesnt really cover that basis either...WTF!!! Hard to keep the animosity down and morale up among the department when I have to deal with that.
Best part is the person I am talking about is also trying to "trick" me into giving a less than favorable year end review to another employee.......I going to have to make some waves about that one......
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