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12-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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No Shame
Living or dead....I'll rip them off.
2.5 oz BM needles
Pichney Conrad JR.
Have skew, will steal.
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12-17-2007, 07:06 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Lookin' great George! Real nice!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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12-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NY
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dead on
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12-17-2007, 07:56 PM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
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sweet
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its no ones fault
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12-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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How dare you copy a salty bugger needlefish !?!?!??  |
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12-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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Master thief!!!
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12-17-2007, 09:05 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Living or dead....I'll rip them off.
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You are a Plug Pirate !!!!! Precision thievery at its best ... |
Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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12-17-2007, 10:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hard aground
Posts: 1,362
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Very nice.
However I dont see the fascination with knocking off the oldies exact 
I think they are a good place to start but for me and maybe I'm a little to specific on a plugs action for a "spot" but the oldies are just that, oldies. From what Ive seen they need alot of "tweeking".
Like I said they are a good reference but from what Ive seen they were made with whats on hand to get the job done and then there's WW2 and how they got around the problem of metals etc...
Blasfamy I know, Oh well. I am not mutch of a historian of plugs so maybe I shouldnt say anything but it seems to me the best stuff came from boutique builders.
Dont get me wrong I do like the knock offs but sometimes I dont understand it...
Bring on the arrows  |
 Plugs Rule 
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12-18-2007, 06:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNG
Very nice.
However I dont see the fascination with knocking off the oldies exact
I think they are a good place to start but for me and maybe I'm a little to specific on a plugs action for a "spot" but the oldies are just that, oldies. From what Ive seen they need alot of "tweeking".
Like I said they are a good reference but from what Ive seen they were made with whats on hand to get the job done and then there's WW2 and how they got around the problem of metals etc...
Blasfamy I know, Oh well. I am not mutch of a historian of plugs so maybe I shouldnt say anything but it seems to me the best stuff came from boutique builders.
Dont get me wrong I do like the knock offs but sometimes I dont understand it...
Bring on the arrows |
Go to Mike's shop and look at the plugs hanging there, 75% or better of them are "boutique" plugs and I have studied all of them, most are cute but not proven designs. If you study plugs in depth you find that it's mostly the proven designs that catch fish more often than not. I have over a 1000 plugs hanging in my celllar but when it comes to being confident in a plugs catching capabilities it's plugs like Beachmaster/Gibbs/Creek Chub that my hand and head go to first. These may look rather plain but Numby has done the research as far as X-rays for internal configuration and actually pouring the leads so as to be exactly as the original in weight grains, placement and design.
Boutique plugs may have a pretty face but not many are as well thought out or do the job, if they ever hit the water, as most end up hanger queens and the majority of the HQ's do end up never hitting the water.
I'll take a Numbskull rip off anyday over a boutique plug. |
Why even try......... 
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12-18-2007, 07:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Beautifull work George, duplicity is the best form of flattery...
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12-18-2007, 07:55 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNG
Very nice.
However I dont see the fascination with knocking off the oldies exact
Dont get me wrong I do like the knock offs but sometimes I dont understand it...
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I like to fish 'em, Chris. I also learn things that make me a better builder and improve my own designs (for example, did you know that BM needles are off center drilled from each end to allow the use of a heavier deeper placed nose weight?) . I agree, though, that at the end of the day what you turn out of your own design is a more meaningful measure of your building/fishing skill. It is just that I know my own designs will be much better if I learn as much as I can from the best builders that proceeded me, rather than depend only on trial and error and tweaking to get there. Thanks for bringing the issue up. |
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12-18-2007, 08:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hard aground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
I also learn things that make me a better builder and improve my own designs.
It is just that I know my own designs will be much better if I learn as much as I can from the best builders that proceeded me, rather than depend only on trial and error and tweaking to get there. Thanks for bringing the issue up.
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Well said. I agree and do the same.
Re-working an oldie I completely agree, like I said they didnt have the "easy" resources we have today.
Sorry for the hijack, mean nothing by it just saying is all and I agree with Flap, gimme your plugs, at least I think thats what he was saying |
Plugs Rule
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12-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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C is a trouble maker.
George is that the AYC one and did it swim like you wanted? |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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12-18-2007, 09:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Good stuff as always
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12-18-2007, 09:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
I'll take a Numbskull rip off anyday over a boutique plug.
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This would be a great T-shirt to get Flap for Christmas. |
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12-18-2007, 02:10 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Those are nothing to be ashamed of
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12-18-2007, 03:45 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Boutique Plugs .. what the heck is that ,, is that like the bong store ?
I like the oldys . Like to copy and fish ... Still learning from them . Everything new isn't better ... what about old growth forest ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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12-18-2007, 03:52 PM
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The Black Dog - Emma
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Central Jersey (Hightstown)
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beautiful work and I share your fascination for re-creating some of the classics  I just did a bunch of Atom Jr's that need to be cleared this week. |
Ride the spiral to the end...............
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12-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern Connecticut
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There's a reason they get to be classics.
Rip on!!!!!
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12-18-2007, 05:50 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Gotta love disecting and learning something about a lure. Those look absolutely perfect!
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Domination takes full concentration..
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12-18-2007, 08:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: some where on the water
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numbskull, BEAUTIFUL 
GOOD LUCK GOOD PLUGGIN |
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12-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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numbskull - as usual beautiful work. I think I have produced a hundred needles and am still looking for the perfect one.  |
low & slow 37
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12-21-2007, 04:43 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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paint colors & changes are so subtle on that Conrad . pink/silver/blue..taking a lesson George ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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12-21-2007, 09:22 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Southern Maine
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Very nice!
These have got me fired-up.I may have to spin up a few Conrads this winter.
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