Spot Burning to the Nth degree!

[numbskull]

Finding fish is the most satisfying part of fishing, catching them is the reward you get for the work (and learning) you did finding them. Descending on a spot someone else has identified and using the most effective method of fishing available gets results, but hardly equates with finding the fish on your own and catching them on your terms.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Finding fish is the most satisfying part of fishing, catching them is the reward you get for the work (and learning) you did finding them. Descending on a spot someone else has identified and using the most effective method of fishing available gets results, but hardly equates with finding the fish on your own and catching them on your terms.

Your right 100% correct...But it also shows that using the most effective method is sometimes prudent and also smart


The phiosphy of this me against the world stuff trying to force your will on fish just doesnt work...Unless a fisherman is after nothing but casting practice, the smart guys will usually at some point want results, and the wise fisherman gets results by using that which puts fish in the boat wheather that be plugs or bait ! After awhile the dude casting a plug to no avail starts to look like an idiot when cast after cast he gets nothing while everyone around him is hawking the doors off the fish using bait, all the while this guy trying to force his will on fish who want notrhing to do with his fake offering...thats just the way it is..Thats just ignorance and stupidity, a good fisherman should never close the door to what works..Unless like I said they just like casting practice and burning gass to watch sun rise...Fishing eventually involves catching a fish at some point...maybe I am wrong...Yes its rewarding finding fish on your own, the trick then becomes catching them..

To many people try to make these fish do what they want them to do...it will never happen...Hoever if someone pulls up to a spot I am in and I say "theres nothing here" and he tosses in a live bunker and pulls out a nice bass...I am the one who looks foolish...

Anyway, I have never, ever crammed anyones style, I dont fish peoples spots or horn in on what someone else has found...never have never will...If someone of my frinds tells me and invites me, thats a different story..And even then I usually dont because I have more confidence in my self than anyone else and would rather fish where my instinc tells me to..

[Krispy]

I just swallowed the tip of my tongue and burst a vessel in my eyeball.

I gotta disagree Backbeach. Spot burninga something you just don't do, burning a friend is plain F'd up. Whether u agree or not if it makes a difference there are unspoken rules btwn fishermen that should be respected.

[eelman]

I think things are getting skewed here...To back up a bit, I dont know where this "friends" stuff comes from...Aqauntence at best, saw the guy on the water a few times....But I would not go anywhere to the point of saying friends? In that respect He may be talking about someone who is a close friend of his, I felt maybe it was Jim and I because of the show....I must have been wrong...because while I wish Parker23 no ill will etc....I am certainly not close or good friends with him by anymeans...A wave and a hello at the most? so he is refering to someone else...

As to spot burning, absolutley not, this was a filmed TV show with no mention of spots at all...we fished many different places as I said over the course of a couple days?? it makes no sense? The intention was to do a show fishing bunker , not to show spots, none where mentioned and none were filmed in such a way as to blatently show where they were? so the context here is way off base...

When OTW did the live eels show around the Elizabeths during the day, it was the same thing? I am sure there were people who recognized where they were fishing....Same situation here...No one knows the date the show was filmed, no one knows the tide we fished, no one knows the time of day we fished etc..For all you know we filmed that in 2006 not 2007....these shows air many many months after they were shot..

Our show has been on the air almost a year now...Its just as any other fishing show...So I dont think you can at all look at that show as a spot burning show at all, if you did then every single show that has fishing should be looked upon the same way! This show has been seen by many people on Cox 3, no one single bad thing has been said about it at all, there have been no backlashes of any kind, there has been no influx of boats at any of the areas we fished....in fact it has been the opisite! I cant explain it any better exept to say everyone needs to sit back and realize what this is, it was not an article on X marks the spot...It was an entertaining local television show meant just for that entertainment...I swear some people look desparatly for the stinger in the honey

He looked at it as a show directly pointing him out and burning his spot...It wasnt , it was a show where we fished multiple spots to come up with a half hour of good fishing...This thread is way off base and spot burning has nothing to do with it..Just because he notced a few seconds of a spot he knows in the show...the odds of that are good, I have certainly sen many shows that had places I fish or have fished in them? I have never taken it that personal...

Any resonable intelligent adult can see that..While this thread is going off the spot burning direction, it shouldent, it has nothing to do with that at all..

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I think things are getting skewed here...To back up a bit, I dont know where this "friends" stuff comes from...Aqauntence at best, saw the guy on the water a few times....But I would not go anywhere to the point of saying friends? In that respect He may be talking about someone who is a close friend of his, I felt maybe it was Jim and I because of the show....I must have been wrong...because while I wish Parker23 no ill will etc....I am certainly not close or good friends with him by anymeans...A wave and a hello at the most? so he is refering to someone else...

As to spot burning, absolutley not, this was a filmed TV show with no mention of spots at all...we fished many different places as I said over the course of a couple days?? it makes no sense? The intention was to do a show fishing bunker , not to show spots, none where mentioned and none were filmed in such a way as to blatently show where they were? so the context here is way off base...

When OTW did the live eels show around the Elizabeths during the day, it was the same thing? I am sure there were people who recognized where they were fishing....Same situation here...

Our show has been on the air almost a year now...Its just as any other fishing show...So I dont think you can at all look at that show as a spot burning show at all, if you did then every single show that has fishing should be looked upon the same way!

He looked at it as a show directly pointing him out and burning his spot...It wasnt , it was a show where we fished multiple spots to come up with a half hour of good fishing...This thread is way off base and spot burning has nothing to do with it..

I think parker is more pissed that you capitalized off of his info and for what its worth i couldnt tell where you guys were at from watching the clip.

Its winter.. but this is a lesson to be learned. I remember you flying off the handle at me fishing with a friend 'in your cove'.. its all silly.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think parker is more pissed that you capitalized off of his info and for what its worth i couldnt tell where you guys were at from watching the clip.

Its winter.. but this is a lesson to be learned. I remember you flying off the handle at me fishing with a friend 'in your cove'.. its all silly.

First of all eben, havent spoken to you in awhile,,,hope all is well!

To set the record straight please! I capalized on nothing! The fish I was told about was in early may..It was no big deal and I went a total of 2 times...It was with plugs and jigs..We filmed the show at the end of june for god sakes and we were using live bunker by then and catching fish litterly everywhere! I am doing my best here to explain this...That was but ONE stop of many stops that day simply because we already knew without being told that we had a chance of fish there anyway, I knew that long before I knew who parker23 was? I hope this makes it clear...We fished there for about 10 minutes that day and thats it, to put it another way, it would be as you told me that you were catching fish at french fry reef well I may go there and check it out but you yourself would already know I fish there anyway and sooner or later I am going to go there, and if I went two months after the fact that would hardly be capatalizing on what you eluded to a couple months earlier? Hopefully this makes it clear what I am saying...

Number two, I was on jimmys boat for that show, while we fished it was very casual, he would say "lets go try spot x" ok "I would say lets go to spot B NOW" Thats how it went, we simply fished areas we already knew had a track record..Its an extreme reach for him to think otherwise...Of course someone like Jim Knows the bay, does anyone think They have a secret spot Jim does not know about? The guy has made his living there for 20 years chartering? he knows every nook and crannie?

I really cant explain this any better exept to say its way off base the more I think about it and really has no bearing on anything other than a far reach at best


You know, I put that link up to let people see some fun fishing action, this board is exausting in the way it makes one have to defend everything, it really takes alot of me ....I put that up without any malice intended, it was already seen by 1000s of rhode Islanders on television...Maybe I am slow, but I dont feel that I have to scrutinize everything I put up to this level...Its insane, it really is...what the heck have you all got here anyway? its nothing but constant " I can bring so and so down" its relentless and I think its loaded with paranoia...I try to come back from time to time but to no avail, attacks come from left field at times...This is just unreal and childish..I dont know any other way to defend this than I already have.

Besides, you large vessel could run me over anytime, you should be blowing me away with that huge rig...My little toy is no match...

[eastendlu]

I enjoyed those clips and appriciate that you shared them and thank you for it.All these spots were fished long before we were ever here and the fish don't care.

[Sea Dangles]

Thanks Bill for sharing your bunker technique with us. Although I don't fish the bay I will try it in some of the spots up here in Mass.P 23, good job pulling the pin and putting it in your pocket!!!

[HESH2]

spots get burnt all the time,just read otw thurs reports from the tackle shops or other publications,reports may be a week old but some are still on.found a spot friend told me about last month near his home and he was catching,went there and fished a few times then had a hard time finding a parking place.spot was burned bye alot of people.think back when frankie d published 100 best striper spots,alot of spot burning.but #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& says it like it is,you still gotta find the fish then catch them.most of the spots are already known.

[eastendlu]

I know all of Timbers spots and i'm making maps with big X's on them.So you too can catch large just mail me a check for 1,000,000.00 Dollars and i'll send map priority mail.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Krispy

I gotta disagree Backbeach. Spot burninga something you just don't do, burning a friend is plain F'd up. Whether u agree or not if it makes a difference there are unspoken rules btwn fishermen that should be respected.

I do agree with that statement.
My point is what comes around goes around. Sometimes you're the provider of the info, sometimes you're the recipient.Sometimes neither. Obviously some info should never be passed on to strangers or to people who don't reciprocate. When people lay claim to a spot and declare ownership it makes me laugh though. The pilgrims would be bull%$%$%$%$ if they knew this stuff was happening.




"Don't tell anyone about this rock!"

[ThrowingTimber]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

The pilgrims would be bull%$%$%$%$ if they knew this stuff was happening.

Thats a good one

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

I do agree with that statement.
My point is what comes around goes around. Sometimes you're the provider of the info, sometimes you're the recipient.Sometimes neither. Obviously some info should never be passed on to strangers or to people who don't reciprocate. When people lay claim to a spot and declare ownership it makes me laugh though. The pilgrims would be bull%$%$%$%$ if they knew this stuff was happening.




"Don't tell anyone about this rock!"

Nice, thats why I let you drive