Spot Burning to the Nth degree!

[jkjnp]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I have shared much with your friend Jonas, I see no one mentioning that...In fact it was acually him who told me first there were fish there because he felt he owed me one I never asked him, he offered it up, as clammer and I hooked him up with live bunker and he caught fish...But to say again, sooner or later we would have ended up there anyway..

How does a guy who only has 40+ posts and is more lurker than anything on this site end up getting thrown in the middle of this?

I have only a couple of things to say-- I certainly have a lot of respect for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, Clammer, Jim White, and anyone who else who has put as many hours on the bay as they have. Any advice, info they are willing to pass onto me I welcome with open arms. While I do not know many of you guys I would be excited to establish friendships/fish with any and all of you.

I also consider Parker23 a good friend and have gotten to know him over the past two summers--so I can certainly understand his reaction--and I initially had the same one.

However, I can also see the other side--a spot is only a spot. It takes good conditions, the right bait and timing to have an epic day like the one in the video. In this particular case I think the number of people who are able to recognize those spots from the video are relatively few.

The number of people who have access by boat even fewer.

The number of people who will take the time to find the pogies and fish the spot at the right time even fewer.

I could not be where I am today as a fisherman in RI (I have a LONG way to go) without the helping hands of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, Clammer, or Parker23 and I am grateful.

Jonas

[eelman]

Originally Posted by jkjnp

How does a guy who only has 40+ posts and is more lurker than anything on this site end up getting thrown in the middle of this?

I have only a couple of things to say-- I certainly have a lot of respect for #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, Clammer, Jim White, and anyone who else who has put as many hours on the bay as they have. Any advice, info they are willing to pass onto me I welcome with open arms. While I do not know many of you guys I would be excited to establish friendships/fish with any and all of you.

I also consider Parker23 a good friend and have gotten to know him over the past two summers--so I can certainly understand his reaction--and I initially had the same one.

However, I can also see the other side--a spot is only a spot. It takes good conditions, the right bait and timing to have an epic day like the one in the video. In this particular case I think the number of people who are able to recognize those spots from the video are relatively few.

The number of people who have access by boat even fewer.

The number of people who will take the time to find the pogies and fish the spot at the right time even fewer.

I could not be where I am today as a fisherman in RI (I have a LONG way to go) without the helping hands of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, Clammer, or Parker23 and I am grateful.

Jonas

Jonas! I am sorry for bringing you into to this, I only wanted to say what happened and the truth is what I said..Your a great guy and if I did not think so You would know it...I apreciate your honesty here and you know or should know I am always willing to help you if you need it...What I said was not personall just clearing the air as to what went down...

Acually when you first saw clammer and I , you kind of ended up doing well in that spot this year...however, you never saw us there again! it just shows that fish swim and move and its ok to fish other places and I am certain you told Bruce about it thats natural, also you posted a picture here with your wife who caught fish, I knew EXACTLY where you were , did I make a fuss? and accuse you of anything? Nope....because it dosent matter at all...Anyway, sorry for dragging you in but the truth is the truth..On this one bruce is way way over the top...

Plus you guys have larger, faster boats than me..its easy for you to muscle me right out!

Anyway, your always welcome to any advice I can give you Jonas!

Bill

[5/0]

Originally Posted by bart

tim coleman also once said, "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, come out to Naps. we've been getting fish in the 40lb. range." and thus, the legend of the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& was born....

Ohhhh no another box

[chris L]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Thank you NEBE...Thats the best gift I have ever gotton!

But you just burned my favorite spot!

now that is more funnier than anything I could have cum up with .

but I have been to that spot too just didnt tag it with my name .

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by spence

As an aside, I actually took the time to watch the videos of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& live lining pogies that are causing all the fuss.

I've never actually live lined a live bunker from a boat before, and was more than a bit unimpressed by the technique.

Seems more like a novelty than fishing.

You're snagging bunker in so thick a treble zipped through the water will produce over and over again. If you get thirsty, there's a vending machine on the dock about 20 yards away.

You motor to the GPS coordinates Parker's "friend" emailed you that morning.

Then you drop it in the water (or if you're an old salt give it a toss) and let it swim around for a while.

Eventually, a bass who's probably starving (because all the bunker she'd like to have eaten are already in your live well) is tricked (suckered really) into the take about 10-20 feet from your boat. It must be what, a full dozen or two cranks of the reel to bring her boatside?

And this is a sport?



-spence

It's not that easy Spence...

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Nebe

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is allright in my book. Even Carmen Electra thinks so.

http://www.celebritydumpster.com/view.html?id=12679

Holy Sh!t..I didn't even see that..Now THAT is ^%$#@ funny stuff..

[choggieman]

parker23- words to live by-
don't trust anyone
- especially someone who is celebrity. Once someone reaches rockstar status, they maintain it at all costs, even if doing so is immorral and down right underhanded. The price of being a hero is steep and the casualties are many. You got caught by the wrong guy and it hurts, suck it up and learn from your mistake. Once again-
DON'T TRUST ANYBODY

[Jenn]

Originally Posted by Tagger

When you see your bud in your spot with someone eles,,it feels almost as bad as when you catch your wife cheating on you .. You can get another wife .. good fishing spots are hard to come by ..

Actually isnt it more like taking your buddy home with you to sleep with your wife and then getting mad at him becase he went back for more?

[jkjnp]

Originally Posted by choggieman

parker23- words to live by-
don't trust anyone
- especially someone who is celebrity. Once someone reaches rockstar status, they maintain it at all costs, even if doing so is immorral and down right underhanded. The price of being a hero is steep and the casualties are many. You got caught by the wrong guy and it hurts, suck it up and learn from your mistake. Once again-
DON'T TRUST ANYBODY

Are you serious? What a crappy way to live. I really hope you're kidding, because that must be a tough way to live...

I'd rather believe that people are good and get burned every once in a while than live life not trusting anyone.

I hope you're joking.

[NIB]

NJ is one big explosion.

[JohnR]

Well this was fun.

Actually, Carmen was really pretty good

[eelman]

Originally Posted by jkjnp

Are you serious? What a crappy way to live. I really hope you're kidding, because that must be a tough way to live...

I'd rather believe that people are good and get burned every once in a while than live life not trusting anyone.

I hope you're joking.

"parker23- words to live by- (posted by Choggieman)
don't trust anyone
- especially someone who is celebrity. Once someone reaches rockstar status, they maintain it at all costs, even if doing so is immorral and down right underhanded. The price of being a hero is steep and the casualties are many. You got caught by the wrong guy and it hurts, suck it up and learn from your mistake. Once again-"

The sad part is he isnt...its way out of line and what he said again in the right eyes speaks for itself...I am nothing of what he says....no way not at all...but hey, I get tired of defending it...Never have I burned anyone in my fishing life never! I am sure at least some will agree with that...Incredible , I dont even know this guy and he make assumptions...anyway, to me its like everything else...it REAKS of jealousy...I cannot state enough how upset that gets me....I never burned anyone anytime anyplace...just not my style..I have always found my own fish and I am proud of it...

I cant fathom what this post has become! its madness, I posted a tv show that was already seen by many, simply for enjoyment for the people here who may not have seen it...and it turns to this..I have no words...

Look, I wont lie, I think I paid my dues, I caught the fish I say I caught, I am proud of it...2 50s and a 60 is something I am very proud of....I never said I was a "celebrity" never...My seminars were and are always humble, I give the most info I can to help people in an honest way...I realize some like me and some hate me thats the way it is and I understand that but to post complete lies? that goes over the line

anyway I am out of ways to defend myself here...what more can I say

[choggieman]

Originally Posted by jkjnp

Are you serious? What a crappy way to live. I really hope you're kidding, because that must be a tough way to live...

I'd rather believe that people are good and get burned every once in a while than live life not trusting anyone.

I hope you're joking.

I trust a select few people in my life, not the general public. I am a pessimist by nature, so I do not give up anything until I am 1000% positive it will not come back to bite me in the a$$. Too often people prey upon their peers for their own benefit. It happens every day, just not to me. Let me get to know you for the person you are, let me trust you, and I will give you all I have. If you get down to the numbers, I am willing to bet the majority people you meet in life would sell you down the river if it meant they would benefit from it.

[5/0]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

anyway I am out of ways to defend myself here...what more can I say

Nothing.........

[bloocrab]

Originally Posted by Goose

Your gonna have to get used to being a celebrity, ....

Tony, if I find out that you are planning to fish with ANYONE who posted on this thread, you can lose my number dude -

NO JOKE!

[Swimmer]

Didn't Carmen Electra think Dave Rodman the freaky basketball player was allright too. Oh boy, eeeeeeewwwwwwwwe.

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

I do agree with that statement.
My point is what comes around goes around. Sometimes you're the provider of the info, sometimes you're the recipient.Sometimes neither. Obviously some info should never be passed on to strangers or to people who don't reciprocate. When people lay claim to a spot and declare ownership it makes me laugh though. The pilgrims would be bull%$%$%$%$ if they knew this stuff was happening.




"Don't tell anyone about this rock!"

Nice, thats why I let you drive

[fumifish]

Originally Posted by Nebe

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is allright in my book. Even Carmen Electra thinks so.

http://www.celebritydumpster.com/view.html?id=12679

sorry.. pls continue. spot burning was it???

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by piemma

WOW!!! How the heck did you do that? I'm pretty good with PhotoShop but that's unbelievable. She really does have #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& tattoed on her ass.

The other cheek says "Clammer was here"

[Brother Brian]

Thank you NEBE...Thats the best gift I have ever gotton!

But you just burned my favorite spot!

Give that spot a couple of years and a bunch of donuts and you'll pull a forty out of there Nooo problem ....

[Clammer]

WOW >>>>>>>>>

Just lurking .. not saying much .too much has been said already ;;;

The thing that seems to suck is >>>>>>> when the times #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& / starts a tread/ gets involved in a tread >>>> the same hero,s .. jump on his s hit >. a couple of years ago I would agree with most of the things said >>> he made posts without thinking / now it doesn,t matter ;; there is a hate the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& [cult] on this site / that just wait to start a flare-up & too then hopefully a war ;;
Bruce / this is noway in reflect of your anger & disappointment ;; & I am not referring to you ;;
...... I just sat back & read the 80 posts & I actually looked at the video twice / havn,t not seen it before ;;
Its been around for a while >. nothing said >> #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& does a link & holy s hit >> the world quit spinning ;;
that wasn,t meant to bust balls / or in your face >>. which a couple of years ago >. it probably would have been ;;
Its taken a couple of that long to get him to understand the other side of what he writes
If the wasn,t jim & bill >. this thread would have gone no-where ;;;
I,ve been on the water a very long time & I,ve seen the good /bad / & ugly ;; be it reg or commercial ;;
be it fish/ clams /lobster/ whatever > there is always going to be a up side & down side .. good guy /bad guy ;;
I,ve met & known fisherman 100.s of fisherman /with 100,s of personalities >>
some are good, some - great . some suck .. when it comes to their ability to catch >. the same fisherman .. some don,t say #^&#^&#^&#^& s hit & some never stop yaking ;;
everyone if different / that,s the way we were made ;;

I myself / I,m loud , fat, straight forward to a point that its not good ;;
But I love to fish & have fun >> many fisherman {CAN,t do both & that,s a shame . If its not commercial fishing / which is 99% not fun ;; & your are supposely fishing for the fun // you best take up golf >. if you have to catch / if you miss the sunset/ if you miss the smell on low tide/ if you miss the big bright full moon the many tell ya that ,s when fishing sucks ;;

In closing >.be it the heavy hitters of the past . The up & coming youngin,s or the {Pro,s we here/ read /& see on a weekly basis ;; or the guy that doesn,t say much & ya don,tknow his name or where or what he catches ..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WE & I said WE all have one thing in common >>> the odds of you being above average comes down to time in / dues paid / studying & trying new places & methods ;;

and that common thread is the 6th sense >. for the feel of fishing / ya know it when ya have it & the people around you know you have the feel ;;
I,ve known capt Jim > since college / & that f $%%^&* cigar ;; he tells ya like it is >. I respect that >>> this guy can fish >. yes he,s chosen a career that demands success but he also gave one up that had alot more money/ & Bennys & security ;; He is that last guy on the bay that needs a [lead] ;;
& billy wacko [#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&] its unfortunite for me that it wasn,t until four years ago / that are paths crossed to a point where we finally fished together ;;
I ;[HEARD} he was a awesome surf fisherman >> but that,s a rumor > I never had the real opportunity to fish with him in the true surf >>> with this ruggered body of mine >>its just not practable ::: But I was able to talk him into a couple of fishing adventures in the tin boat / gradually leading into the seahunt & larger water ;;
WOW . the guy that only suft fish count >. started to enjot boat fishing & he quickly noticed the pluses /But was also able to see the negatives & dangers of boat fishing ;;
I will say >>>>>>>> In a boat / in the surf / or in a plane / I have never seen anyone that has even come close to the [art] the he has when it comes to fishing a eel ;;
& to take it a step further I can honestly say i have never met anyone with only two years of boat fishing on his own / that is so in tune with whats going around him ;;
there is no such thing as constant luck :;
Bill, Jim , I,ll fish with you anyplace /anytime ............... But to the people that know me .. I,ll fish with anyone /anywhere so long as its to have fun / enjoy what has been given to us & maybe catch a fish ;;;

F %^&*( this video / it was done for what it was /
fishing the ocean state ><><><

[BW from AZ]

like others just read 82 posts straight. did fine till clammers, then eyes started to water so bad couldnt hardly read. these "spots" you speak of, if their bigger than a barrel, they wouldnt do me any good.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by spence

As an aside, I actually took the time to watch the videos of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& live lining pogies that are causing all the fuss.

I've never actually live lined a live bunker from a boat before, and was more than a bit unimpressed by the technique.

Seems more like a novelty than fishing.

You're snagging bunker in so thick a treble zipped through the water will produce over and over again. If you get thirsty, there's a vending machine on the dock about 20 yards away.

You motor to the GPS coordinates Parker's "friend" emailed you that morning.

Then you drop it in the water (or if you're an old salt give it a toss) and let it swim around for a while.

Eventually, a bass who's probably starving (because all the bunker she'd like to have eaten are already in your live well) is tricked (suckered really) into the take about 10-20 feet from your boat. It must be what, a full dozen or two cranks of the reel to bring her boatside?

And this is a sport?



-spence

You know Jeff, sometimes you post and confirm the fact that you are a total F*&^$ing idiot.

[spence]

Originally Posted by piemma

You know Jeff, sometimes you post and confirm the fact that you are a total F*&^$ing idiot.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Clammer

WOW >>>>>>>>>

Just lurking .. not saying much .too much has been said already ;;;

The thing that seems to suck is >>>>>>> when the times #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& / starts a tread/ gets involved in a tread >>>> the same hero,s .. jump on his s hit >. a couple of years ago I would agree with most of the things said >>> he made posts without thinking / now it doesn,t matter ;; there is a hate the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& [cult] on this site / that just wait to start a flare-up & too then hopefully a war ;;
Bruce / this is noway in reflect of your anger & disappointment ;; & I am not referring to you ;;
...... I just sat back & read the 80 posts & I actually looked at the video twice / havn,t not seen it before ;;
Its been around for a while >. nothing said >> #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& does a link & holy s hit >> the world quit spinning ;;
that wasn,t meant to bust balls / or in your face >>. which a couple of years ago >. it probably would have been ;;
Its taken a couple of that long to get him to understand the other side of what he writes
If the wasn,t jim & bill >. this thread would have gone no-where ;;;
I,ve been on the water a very long time & I,ve seen the good /bad / & ugly ;; be it reg or commercial ;;
be it fish/ clams /lobster/ whatever > there is always going to be a up side & down side .. good guy /bad guy ;;
I,ve met & known fisherman 100.s of fisherman /with 100,s of personalities >>
some are good, some - great . some suck .. when it comes to their ability to catch >. the same fisherman .. some don,t say #^&#^&#^&#^& s hit & some never stop yaking ;;
everyone if different / that,s the way we were made ;;

I myself / I,m loud , fat, straight forward to a point that its not good ;;
But I love to fish & have fun >> many fisherman {CAN,t do both & that,s a shame . If its not commercial fishing / which is 99% not fun ;; & your are supposely fishing for the fun // you best take up golf >. if you have to catch / if you miss the sunset/ if you miss the smell on low tide/ if you miss the big bright full moon the many tell ya that ,s when fishing sucks ;;

In closing >.be it the heavy hitters of the past . The up & coming youngin,s or the {Pro,s we here/ read /& see on a weekly basis ;; or the guy that doesn,t say much & ya don,tknow his name or where or what he catches ..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WE & I said WE all have one thing in common >>> the odds of you being above average comes down to time in / dues paid / studying & trying new places & methods ;;

and that common thread is the 6th sense >. for the feel of fishing / ya know it when ya have it & the people around you know you have the feel ;;
I,ve known capt Jim > since college / & that f $%%^&* cigar ;; he tells ya like it is >. I respect that >>> this guy can fish >. yes he,s chosen a career that demands success but he also gave one up that had alot more money/ & Bennys & security ;; He is that last guy on the bay that needs a [lead] ;;
& billy wacko [#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&] its unfortunite for me that it wasn,t until four years ago / that are paths crossed to a point where we finally fished together ;;
I ;[HEARD} he was a awesome surf fisherman >> but that,s a rumor > I never had the real opportunity to fish with him in the true surf >>> with this ruggered body of mine >>its just not practable ::: But I was able to talk him into a couple of fishing adventures in the tin boat / gradually leading into the seahunt & larger water ;;
WOW . the guy that only suft fish count >. started to enjot boat fishing & he quickly noticed the pluses /But was also able to see the negatives & dangers of boat fishing ;;
I will say >>>>>>>> In a boat / in the surf / or in a plane / I have never seen anyone that has even come close to the [art] the he has when it comes to fishing a eel ;;
& to take it a step further I can honestly say i have never met anyone with only two years of boat fishing on his own / that is so in tune with whats going around him ;;
there is no such thing as constant luck :;
Bill, Jim , I,ll fish with you anyplace /anytime ............... But to the people that know me .. I,ll fish with anyone /anywhere so long as its to have fun / enjoy what has been given to us & maybe catch a fish ;;;

F %^&*( this video / it was done for what it was /
fishing the ocean state ><><><

Mike,

What about " I Hate #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&" T shirts? Would that be taking advantage of a friend? I think Bill`s head on a eel body would sell with a fat menhaden overlayed.

Its all words typed on the Internet so I don`t really know the truth either way. Its been entertaining but life goes on.

Happy New Year All

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by piemma
You know Jeff, sometimes you post and confirm the fact that you are a total F*&^$ing idiot.

Originally Posted by spence

-spence

Now thats friendship

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Clammer

WOW >>>>>>>>>

Just lurking .. not saying much .too much has been said already ;;;

The thing that seems to suck is >>>>>>> when the times #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& / starts a tread/ gets involved in a tread >>>> the same hero,s .. jump on his s hit >. a couple of years ago I would agree with most of the things said >>> he made posts without thinking / now it doesn,t matter ;; there is a hate the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& [cult] on this site / that just wait to start a flare-up & too then hopefully a war ;;
Bruce / this is noway in reflect of your anger & disappointment ;; & I am not referring to you ;;
...... I just sat back & read the 80 posts & I actually looked at the video twice / havn,t not seen it before ;;
Its been around for a while >. nothing said >> #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& does a link & holy s hit >> the world quit spinning ;;
that wasn,t meant to bust balls / or in your face >>. which a couple of years ago >. it probably would have been ;;
Its taken a couple of that long to get him to understand the other side of what he writes
If the wasn,t jim & bill >. this thread would have gone no-where ;;;
I,ve been on the water a very long time & I,ve seen the good /bad / & ugly ;; be it reg or commercial ;;
be it fish/ clams /lobster/ whatever > there is always going to be a up side & down side .. good guy /bad guy ;;
I,ve met & known fisherman 100.s of fisherman /with 100,s of personalities >>
some are good, some - great . some suck .. when it comes to their ability to catch >. the same fisherman .. some don,t say #^&#^&#^&#^& s hit & some never stop yaking ;;
everyone if different / that,s the way we were made ;;

I myself / I,m loud , fat, straight forward to a point that its not good ;;
But I love to fish & have fun >> many fisherman {CAN,t do both & that,s a shame . If its not commercial fishing / which is 99% not fun ;; & your are supposely fishing for the fun // you best take up golf >. if you have to catch / if you miss the sunset/ if you miss the smell on low tide/ if you miss the big bright full moon the many tell ya that ,s when fishing sucks ;;

In closing >.be it the heavy hitters of the past . The up & coming youngin,s or the {Pro,s we here/ read /& see on a weekly basis ;; or the guy that doesn,t say much & ya don,tknow his name or where or what he catches ..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WE & I said WE all have one thing in common >>> the odds of you being above average comes down to time in / dues paid / studying & trying new places & methods ;;

and that common thread is the 6th sense >. for the feel of fishing / ya know it when ya have it & the people around you know you have the feel ;;
I,ve known capt Jim > since college / & that f $%%^&* cigar ;; he tells ya like it is >. I respect that >>> this guy can fish >. yes he,s chosen a career that demands success but he also gave one up that had alot more money/ & Bennys & security ;; He is that last guy on the bay that needs a [lead] ;;
& billy wacko [#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&] its unfortunite for me that it wasn,t until four years ago / that are paths crossed to a point where we finally fished together ;;
I ;[HEARD} he was a awesome surf fisherman >> but that,s a rumor > I never had the real opportunity to fish with him in the true surf >>> with this ruggered body of mine >>its just not practable ::: But I was able to talk him into a couple of fishing adventures in the tin boat / gradually leading into the seahunt & larger water ;;
WOW . the guy that only suft fish count >. started to enjot boat fishing & he quickly noticed the pluses /But was also able to see the negatives & dangers of boat fishing ;;
I will say >>>>>>>> In a boat / in the surf / or in a plane / I have never seen anyone that has even come close to the [art] the he has when it comes to fishing a eel ;;
& to take it a step further I can honestly say i have never met anyone with only two years of boat fishing on his own / that is so in tune with whats going around him ;;
there is no such thing as constant luck :;
Bill, Jim , I,ll fish with you anyplace /anytime ............... But to the people that know me .. I,ll fish with anyone /anywhere so long as its to have fun / enjoy what has been given to us & maybe catch a fish ;;;

F %^&*( this video / it was done for what it was /
fishing the ocean state ><><><

The Clammer has spoken.

[chris L]

THERE IS A BASEMENT SALE AT MACY'S !

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

Holy Sh!t..I didn't even see that..Now THAT is ^%$#@ funny stuff..

How the hell? That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Canalman]

Wow, this post really got out of hand there for a while, thanks Nebe for lightening the mood!