Are the Patriots the best team ever

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

Great question, Mike; however did Montana, Young, Manning, Brady---or even Simms come off of the bench, as a back-up, down by 3TD's, on MNF ~no less, and go 4 for 4 with the first three passes being TD's? The first of which was an on the money bomb to Willie Gault.

A cool cat that didn't finish his career strongly, but I will never fogedda bout that off the bench performance, against the Vikings????

No question Brady for my QB .

Frank Reich did something like that for the Bills in a Playoff game when Kelly got hurt. The Oilers were up almost 30 points at halftime. Does that make him an all time great?

McMahon was a one and done phenom. And he had a defense that consistently put him in great field position in that one great season he had.

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Frank Reich did something like that for the Bills in a Playoff game when Kelly got hurt. The Oilers were up almost 30 points at halftime. Does that make him an all time great?

McMahon was a one and done phenom. And he had a defense that consistently put him in great field position in that one great season he had.

I totally agree that McMahon was a one and done phenom,
but what he did was unequaled. And has yet to be achieved by any of the greats??? He came off of the bench, MNF, and threw 3 straight TD Passes!!

Brady to me is still the GOAT, when/if he pulls of this Path to Perfection thang. Also, who here thinks that he's done? Prolly good for at least two more?

Just think how bad the rest of the country is gonna hate us by then, huh?

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

I totally agree that McMahon was a one and done phenom,
but what he did was unequaled. And has yet to be achieved by any of the greats??? He came off of the bench, MNF, and threw 3 straight TD Passes!!

Reich was a career back-up. He probably didn't take a snap all that season. He came into a playoff game--a freaking playoff game with his team behind 31-3. 4 TDs down. He put up 38 points mostly in the second half to lead the Bills to the biggest postseason comeback ever. Against a team led by Warren Moon. And I guarantee you that he didn't do that by handing off to Thurman Thomas 30+ times.

And you think that McMahon's feat was "unequaled" because he did that in a stupid regular season MNF game?

[BassDawg]

Mike, I agree with you...............eaze up.
What Reich did was good, great if you must .

I'm just saying that what McMahon did sort of sticks out to me
because he threw 4 consecutive passes, completed them, the first two were for a TD, the third wasn't, and then the fourth pass went for a TD as time was running out, I think?? As a single feat of accomplishment i just think that it is noteworthy. I don't recall any other QB doing that, in the history of the NFL. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure no one else has pulled that off to win a game.

Not trying to stir the pot, bro.

[Raider Ronnie]

Everyone must remember the cheap shot body slam Charles Martin (green Bay Packers) put on Mcmahon during a game after he threw an interception.
What do ya think would happen if he or someone did something like that to Tom Brady today ?
Surely would be thrown out of the league for ever in the least!
instead of a small suspension !

[BassDawg]

Definitely a different game nowadays.

But I do think that Brady is very good at avoiding the sack and tougher than most give him credit for.

Just because he doesn't get HIT, doesn't mean that he couldn't take a big HIT; then again, why would I want him to? Doesn't make him a better QB because he can take a hit. It does allow QB's to play longer while they are at the tops of their games, and that has been a good thing. Still................

I AGREE, and think that we've gone from one extreme to the other. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back before long and allow clean FOOTBALL HITS to the QB, not KILL the QB LT/Theismann types of hits.

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Strike_King

That would happen regardless of what QB it was.It's getting to the point where,in today's NFL,QB's aren't going to have to wear pads anymore. I'm not saying that defenders should be able to blast the QB after he releases (like the old days),but it is football.And don't even get me started on the BS pass interference calls that happen weekly throughout the NFL..The league favors the offense way too much these days..

Even though I'm not a Pats fan, that 5K fine this week to Wilfork
was bull%$%$%$%$!

[wrikerjr]

why did wilfork get fined the $5K, did i miss something other than the facemask penalty?